Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM
On 2019-09-28 21:32, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I just wrote IBM asking them to reconsider systemd, given that IBM's business model is different from the old Red Hat's. [cut] I encourage all of you to write IBM. If I'm right and it helps, this would prevent future incompatibilities requiring significant increases in Devuan development effort, just to stay even. If I'm wrong, you lose a couple hours writing a letter. The web page for this letter writing campaign is as follows: Sorry Steve . . . I think this idea is naive, ill-advised and a tactical error that could have very real, unintended consequences. I do hope that neither Devuan nor s6 was mentioned in the letter that you sent. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] I wrote IBM
Hi all, I just wrote IBM asking them to reconsider systemd, given that IBM's business model is different from the old Red Hat's. It took me 3.5 hours: 2 hours to find valid addresses of Todd Moore, VP IBM Open Technologies and Virginia M. Rometty, Chairman, President and CEO of IBM. It then took me 1.5 hours to curate my letter down to 1 page of 12pt type. My letter was to Moore, CC to Rometty. Given the fact that this letter writing campaign involves more than just people in Devuan, and the negative reaction some Devuaners had to this project, I will be serving as the central information point of the letter writing point, accumulating and refining contact information and reporting the successes and failures of writers. I encourage all of you to write IBM. If I'm right and it helps, this would prevent future incompatibilities requiring significant increases in Devuan development effort, just to stay even. If I'm wrong, you lose a couple hours writing a letter. The web page for this letter writing campaign is as follows: http://troubleshooters.com/ibm_systemd/ Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login
Sigh . . . If only Devuan development could generate the participation and enthusiasm that the silliness of systemd bashing does . . . golinux Nothing silly about it. Devuan was born from systemd bashing. I guess the hint there was to take all that energy aimed towards fruitless projects, like writing to some people at IBM, which is leading nowhere... ... and using it positively, constructively to build & expand projects like Devuan which provide actual solutions to the problem(s) systemd embodies and about which we all agree on here. Bernard Rosset https://rosset.net/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] X-server does not load compiled nvidia's bond driver on Devuan-3.
Приветствую. В Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:03:29 +0200, ты писал(а): > Is the nvidia kernel module actually loaded by the kernel? > > $ lsmod | grep nvidia > > If not, can you load the modules manually? > > $ modprobe nvidia > > What are the relevant error messages in Xorg.0.log? Thank you for the direction! The problems were two: 1. 390-th bond driver was not for my video card, and the number is not its version (and looked for higher one). So, i exchanged 390-th driver with 340-th, that is for my video card. Then 2. 340-th driver wasn'r loaded by x-server. The reason for me still remains unknown, but imperiticaly i have found, that the presence of nvidia-alternative nvidia-legacy-check packages on Devuan-3 (testing) installation prevents 340-th bond driver from being loaded by the x-server, therefore, having removed the packages, i've got working x-server under the bond driver again. Андрей. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login
Since, some mentioned KDE, I would like to recount my latest experience with it. I was having difficulty with XFCE as its touch pad configuration is very poor. Moving the mouse pointer around was like dragging 100Kg across rough ground! The displacement of the mouse pointer across the screen was less than the actual displacement of my finger on the touch pad! Currently, I am running KDE without having issues of bloat, and my system, is definitely not state of the art. With Waterfox, medit and simple-netaid (Lazarus version) running this is my memory use: totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 3835 8201966 11310482658 Swap: 0 0 0 Needless to state, I did not install the complete KDE desktop. KDE is not burdening my poor integrated GPU as it defaulted to a very basic rendering mode. I do not know whether this is a direct consequence of KDE itself, or the fact, the kernel is having problems with the i915 graphics driver. In fact, the kernel is reporting a buffer underrun at startup. This is a bug that existed several years ago, but recently, and because I use Devuan, it has shown it ugly head again. On 28/09/2019, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Sep 27, 2019, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> Sigh . . . If only Devuan development could generate the participation >> and >> enthusiasm that the silliness of systemd bashing does . . . > > I gotta get less bad at a lot of things before I can help there :(. > > -- > |_|O|_| > |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert > |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281 > -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) If you cannot make abstructions about details you do not understand the concepts underlying them. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng