Re: [DNG] Hyperbola is ditching the Linux kernel...

2020-01-23 Thread Mark Rousell
Oddly enough, as Hyperbola moves form Linux to FreeBSD, I note that
Project Trident (the desktop spin off from FreeBSD-based TrueOS,
formerly PC-BSD) is actually moving from BSD to Void Linux as a base!

Notably, Void Linux is SystemD-free.

Project Trident's reasons for moving to Linux (when many are considering
moving away from it) are here:
https://project-trident.org/post/os_migration/



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[DNG] you've got to smile ...

2020-01-23 Thread Jim Jackson

systemE

A lightweight systemd replacement written in Emacs lisp

https://github.com/a-schaefers/systemE

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Re: [DNG] Hyperbola is ditching the Linux kernel...

2020-01-23 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Thu, 23 Jan 17:41:22 +0100
 al3xu5 / dotcommon scripsit:
> Hi
> 
> I would like to point out an announcement from the Hyperbola website, which I
> think may be interesting to report here mainly for the reasons they highlight
> about future choices (see in particular the part 'Reasons for this ...' at the
> end of the text ... ).
> 
> Regards

Not the first on the run: distrowatch has just switched to FreeBSD:

http://distrowatch.org/weekly.php?issue=current#sitenews

Nik



> 
> 
> https://www.hyperbola.info/news/announcing-hyperbolabsd-roadmap/
> 
> Due to the Linux kernel rapidly proceeding down an unstable path, we are
> planning on implementing a completely new OS derived from several BSD
> implementations .
> 
> This was not an easy decision to make, but we wish to use our time and
> resources to create a viable alternative to the current operating system
> trends which are actively seeking to undermine user choice and freedom .
> 
> This will not be a “distro” , but a hard fork of the OpenBSD kernel and
> userspace including new code written under GPLv3 and LGPLv3 to replace
> GPL-incompatible [0] parts and non-free ones [1].
> 
> Reasons for this include:
> 
> - Linux kernel forcing adaption of DRM, including HDCP [2].
> 
> - Linux kernel proposed usage of Rust [3] (which contains freedom flaws
> [4] and a centralized code repository that is more prone to cyber attack and
> generally requires internet access to use.) 
> 
> - Linux kernel being written without security and in mind. (KSPP is basically 
> a
>   dead project and Grsec is no longer free software) 
> 
> - Many GNU userspace and core utils are all forcing adaption of features
>   without build time options to disable them. E.g. (PulseAudio [5] / SystemD /
>   Rust [6] / Java [7] as forced dependencies)
> 
> [0] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses
> [1] https://notabug.org/jadedctrl/libertybsd-scripts-mirror/issues/5
> [2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10084131/
> [3] https://lwn.net/Articles/797828/
> [4] https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:main:rusts_freedom_flaws
> [5] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659338
> [6]
> https://www.infoworld.com/article/3165424/mozilla-binds-firefoxs-fate-to-the-rust-language.html
> [7] https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=57217
> 
> 
> 



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[DNG] Hyperbola is ditching the Linux kernel...

2020-01-23 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Hi

I would like to point out an announcement from the Hyperbola website, which I
think may be interesting to report here mainly for the reasons they highlight
about future choices (see in particular the part 'Reasons for this ...' at the
end of the text ... ).

Regards


https://www.hyperbola.info/news/announcing-hyperbolabsd-roadmap/

Due to the Linux kernel rapidly proceeding down an unstable path, we are
planning on implementing a completely new OS derived from several BSD
implementations .

This was not an easy decision to make, but we wish to use our time and
resources to create a viable alternative to the current operating system
trends which are actively seeking to undermine user choice and freedom .

This will not be a “distro” , but a hard fork of the OpenBSD kernel and
userspace including new code written under GPLv3 and LGPLv3 to replace
GPL-incompatible [0] parts and non-free ones [1].

Reasons for this include:

- Linux kernel forcing adaption of DRM, including HDCP [2].

- Linux kernel proposed usage of Rust [3] (which contains freedom flaws
[4] and a centralized code repository that is more prone to cyber attack and
generally requires internet access to use.) 

- Linux kernel being written without security and in mind. (KSPP is basically a
  dead project and Grsec is no longer free software) 

- Many GNU userspace and core utils are all forcing adaption of features
  without build time options to disable them. E.g. (PulseAudio [5] / SystemD /
  Rust [6] / Java [7] as forced dependencies)

[0] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses
[1] https://notabug.org/jadedctrl/libertybsd-scripts-mirror/issues/5
[2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10084131/
[3] https://lwn.net/Articles/797828/
[4] https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:main:rusts_freedom_flaws
[5] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659338
[6]
https://www.infoworld.com/article/3165424/mozilla-binds-firefoxs-fate-to-the-rust-language.html
[7] https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=57217



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