Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail
On 23/10/2020 15:44, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > >> Has any of you TB users (assuming there are any here} done this migration? >> How is the new shiny? Is it fine? Shall I forget about TB? Any suggestions >> of what could replace it? > Nope. This is the first I've heard of it. One really needs to keep track of the various Thunderbird mail lists/groups for news like this. As someone who watches the whole thing fairly closely, it's actually quite hard to keep track of the changes. However, this deprecation of old addons, which is what is forcing the loss of Enigmail, which in turn is what is forcing Thunderbird to take on OpenPGP encryption internally, has been publicly know for about a year. See here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net/2019-October/005493.html > This is not the first I've heard > of problems with enigmail. Over the past 5 years or so, it seems like it > only works about half the time. And I mean it goes months without being > available for installation. For the avoidance of doubt, this is *not* a problem with Enigmail. Enigmail continues to work fine in earlier versions of Thunderbird. (As an aside, I don't recognise your negative perception of Enigmail. I've use it for years, I don't know how long, and I've always found it reliable and useful. If it was unavailable for installation then that would very likely be a problem with Mozilla's addon server, not Enigmail's fault). The reason for this change is that Thunderbird is deprecating all its old addons (the entire ecosystem) in favour of WebExtension-based addons and Enigmail won't work on the new Thunderbird. Thus Thunderbird has to take over OpenPGP encryption internally. Disclaimer: I say all of the above as a very long time user of Thunderbird who is (a) not happy with the direction in which Thunderbird is now being taken and (b) who is not impressed with the outward appearance of the style of governance of the project. To be fair, whether or not it would be possible to continue Thunderbird development in any other way with currently available resources is questionable. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail
On 23/10/2020 08:04, Simon Walter wrote: > Hi all, > > Yes, I use TB. Please excuse me for living. > > I am wondering how other TB and GPG users are dealing with: > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:Migration-From-Enigmail > > From what I understand, I now have to maintain two copies of my key > rings: the regular one and the one *inside* TB. I believe that it is possible to continue using GnuPG with Thunderbird's new OpenPGP implementation using a smartcard. Have a look here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:Smartcards It *might* be possible to modify this approach to use GnuPG without a smartcard under the new Thunderbird (version 78 onwards). > Somehow this smells like maybe someone didn't read Superiority or they > just hate their users and want them to go away. You're not the only one to come to this conclusion, or something like it. > Has any of you TB users (assuming there are any here} done this > migration? How is the new shiny? Is it fine? Shall I forget about TB? > Any suggestions of what could replace it? I'm not in a hurry to do it. I want to let the bugs get very thoroughly sorted out first. The reason for this change is that Thunderbird is deprecating all its old addons (the entire ecosystem) and Enigmail won't work on the new Thunderbird. It's less than satisfactory. > Though, I want to consider alternatives as, I somehow don't trust > Mozilla ever since they became SJ warring virtue signalers. Sure, it > was a while ago. I find it hard to move on, which, like many of you, > is why I don't like it when software changes. Note that Thunderbird is no longer being developed in-house by Mozilla. They cast it adrift several years ago for development by the community. For several years nothing much happened but, more recently, Thunderbird's structure has been formalised in a corporation that is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Mozilla Foundation. If you think this sounds like Mozilla are still developing it I'd understand but, in fact, it is now separate and has its own governing council. Where the corporate leadership come from I am less than clear. Disclaimer: I say all of the above as a very long time user of Thunderbird who is (a) not happy with the direction in which Thunderbird is now being taken and (b) who is not impressed with the outward appearance of the style of governance of the project. Whether or not it would be possible to continue Thunderbird development in any other way with currently available resources is questionable. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Nvidia-legacy-340xx driver is not compiled for linux-image-5.9.0.
Dear Андрей, Am Samstag, 24. Oktober 2020 schrieb Андрей via Dng: > Hello. > > > On the last update of the kernel (5.9.0), nvidia-legacy-340xx driver > would not compile because of some headers are missing. I have I have had this experience a couple of times while upgrading. The linux-headers for an updated kernel version don't seem to get installed by dependency. The kernel is not really being updated, but the new version is installed additionally. I've been surprised ever again by this. /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms: Error! echo Your kernel headers for kernel 4.19.0-12-amd64 cannot be found at /lib/modules/4.19.0-12-amd64/build or /lib/modules/4.19.0-12-amd64/source. Installing the matching linux-headers solves it. HTH Kind regards, Stefan (@Андрей PS: sorry for the unintended private reply) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Nvidia-legacy-340xx driver is not compiled for linux-image-5.9.0.
Hello. On the last update of the kernel (5.9.0), nvidia-legacy-340xx driver would not compile because of some headers are missing. I have linux-headers-5.9.0-1-amd64 linux-headers-5.9.0-1-common but it is not enough any more (for the 5.8.0 did). I know, that Sid is Sid, but by the letter, i want to: 1. declare of such a problem 2. find out, if one has met the same issue, and solved some how. Thank you. Andrey. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.
Dear All, The issue seems to have been caused by the laptop's battery electronics. I removed the battery and reconfigured the kernel package to rebuild initrd.img. Rebooting did not reproduce the issue. However, I need several days to confirm the issue has truly been resolved. Thanks. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
