Re: [DNG] Disabling touchpad
Le 27/12/2020 à 21:55, Steve Litt a écrit : > On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:20:04 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> My touchpad is absurdly sensitive, and I keep brushing against it by >> accident. I don't feel the touch at all, but the computer sure does. >> It can hapen while I'm typing and suddenly my text edit turns into a >> shell command in a newsly chosen window. >> I suspect even a few beard hairs can activate it. >> >> Now I usually use a wireless mouse on this computer though >> occasionally the mouse fails (usually low battery) an then I do want >> the touchpad. >> >> Is there any way to disable the touchpad normally, but to reactivate >> it easily when the mouse fails? > Yes! > > The attached touchtoggle.sh should fulfill your exact needs. Just > associate it with a convenient hotkey. > > For convenience I'm also putting it in the body, but use it from the > attachment: I have no idea what email clients do to the characters in > the file: > > == > #!/bin/sh > > # touchtoggle.sh Copyright (C) 2019 by Steve Litt > # All rights reserved. > # Licensed via the > # Expat license: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Expat > > # FIRST GET DEVICE'S DEVICE ID CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "TOUCHPAD" > devid=`xinput | grep -i touchpad | \ > sed -e"s/.*id=//" | sed -e"s/\s.*//"` > > # WITH THAT DEVICE ID, FIND EVERYTING ABOUT PROPERTY > # CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "DEVICE ENABLED" > scratchline=`xinput --list-props 11 | \ > grep -i "device enabled" | \ > sed -e"s/^\s*//" | sed -e"s/\s*$//"` > proptext=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/\s*(.*//"` > propid=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*(//" | sed -e"s/).*//"` > currstate=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*):\s*//"` > > # DIAGNOSTICS, COMMENT OUT WHEN FULLY FUNCTIONAL > echo diagnostic devid =$devid > echo diagnostic scratchline=$scratchline > echo diagnostic proptext =$proptext# > echo diagnostic propid =$propid > > # TOGGLE CURRSTATE VARIABLE > echo -n "Current state of $currstate " > if test "$currstate" = "1"; then > currstate=0 > else > currstate=1 > fi > echo has been changed to $currstate. > > # IMPLEMENT THE PROPERTY VALUE CHANGE > xinput set-prop $devid $propid $currstate > > # UNCOMMENT FOLLOWING LINE IF PROPERTY ID STOPS WORKING > #xinput set-prop $devid "$proptext" $currstate > > == > > I've had several versions of this shellscript, so please let me know > whether it works for you. Note you might as well open your laptop and unplug the touchpad. Just search for a tutorial on how to change it. -- Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Disabling touchpad
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 09:39:04AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 27/12/2020 à 21:55, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:20:04 -0500 > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >> My touchpad is absurdly sensitive, and I keep brushing against it by > >> accident. I don't feel the touch at all, but the computer sure does. > >> It can hapen while I'm typing and suddenly my text edit turns into a > >> shell command in a newsly chosen window. > >> I suspect even a few beard hairs can activate it. > >> > >> Now I usually use a wireless mouse on this computer though > >> occasionally the mouse fails (usually low battery) an then I do want > >> the touchpad. > >> > >> Is there any way to disable the touchpad normally, but to reactivate > >> it easily when the mouse fails? > > Yes! > > > > The attached touchtoggle.sh should fulfill your exact needs. Just > > associate it with a convenient hotkey. > > > > For convenience I'm also putting it in the body, but use it from the > > attachment: I have no idea what email clients do to the characters in > > the file: > > > > == > > #!/bin/sh > > > > # touchtoggle.sh Copyright (C) 2019 by Steve Litt > > # All rights reserved. > > # Licensed via the > > # Expat license: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Expat > > > > # FIRST GET DEVICE'S DEVICE ID CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "TOUCHPAD" > > devid=`xinput | grep -i touchpad | \ > > sed -e"s/.*id=//" | sed -e"s/\s.*//"` > > > > # WITH THAT DEVICE ID, FIND EVERYTING ABOUT PROPERTY > > # CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "DEVICE ENABLED" > > scratchline=`xinput --list-props 11 | \ > > grep -i "device enabled" | \ > > sed -e"s/^\s*//" | sed -e"s/\s*$//"` > > proptext=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/\s*(.*//"` > > propid=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*(//" | sed -e"s/).*//"` > > currstate=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*):\s*//"` > > > > # DIAGNOSTICS, COMMENT OUT WHEN FULLY FUNCTIONAL > > echo diagnostic devid =$devid > > echo diagnostic scratchline=$scratchline > > echo diagnostic proptext =$proptext# > > echo diagnostic propid =$propid > > > > # TOGGLE CURRSTATE VARIABLE > > echo -n "Current state of $currstate " > > if test "$currstate" = "1"; then > > currstate=0 > > else > > currstate=1 > > fi > > echo has been changed to $currstate. > > > > # IMPLEMENT THE PROPERTY VALUE CHANGE > > xinput set-prop $devid $propid $currstate > > > > # UNCOMMENT FOLLOWING LINE IF PROPERTY ID STOPS WORKING > > #xinput set-prop $devid "$proptext" $currstate > > > > == > > > > I've had several versions of this shellscript, so please let me know > > whether it works for you. > > Note you might as well open your laptop and unplug the touchpad. > Just search for a tutorial on how to change it. > > -- Didier Yes, in principle. The times I need my touchpad are * when my mouse battery runs out and I don't have a new one at hand * when my mouse mysteriously fails * when I'm travelling and I've forgotten my mouse etc. In few of these cases is it practical to take my computer apart and reconnect the touchpad, but it can be easy to run a shell command after hitting control-alt-F1 and logging in. -- hendrik > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Disabling touchpad
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:39:04 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > > Note you might as well open your laptop and unplug the touchpad. > Just search for a tutorial on how to change it. > > -- Didier Huh? How did you draw that conclusion? SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Disabling touchpad
Le 28/12/2020 à 16:00, Steve Litt a écrit : > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:39:04 +0100 > Didier Kryn wrote: > > >> Note you might as well open your laptop and unplug the touchpad. >> Just search for a tutorial on how to change it. >> >> -- Didier > Huh? How did you draw that conclusion? Well, it's a hardware problem you are trying to solve by a software method; why not solving it by a hard method? If your touchpad is unusable and is always in your way, the most radical method to get rid of it is to unplug it, no? And my experience with an old laptop is that it may be easy to do. I have changed the keyboard of this old laptop and I could see the connector of the touchpad. Or you might replace it with a working one. -- Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Disabling touchpad
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 16:30:55 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Or you might replace it with a working one. This has happened on every laptop I've owned (at least eight). I have big hands and they invariably hit the mousepad. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Another document listing systemd deficiencies
Hi all, This is a fun document: https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/ SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Disabling touchpad
On 28-12-2020 12:42, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 09:39:04AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: >> Le 27/12/2020 à 21:55, Steve Litt a écrit : >>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:20:04 -0500 >>> Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> My touchpad is absurdly sensitive, and I keep brushing against it by accident. I don't feel the touch at all, but the computer sure does. It can hapen while I'm typing and suddenly my text edit turns into a shell command in a newsly chosen window. I suspect even a few beard hairs can activate it. Now I usually use a wireless mouse on this computer though occasionally the mouse fails (usually low battery) an then I do want the touchpad. Is there any way to disable the touchpad normally, but to reactivate it easily when the mouse fails? >>> Yes! >>> >>> The attached touchtoggle.sh should fulfill your exact needs. Just >>> associate it with a convenient hotkey. >>> >>> For convenience I'm also putting it in the body, but use it from the >>> attachment: I have no idea what email clients do to the characters in >>> the file: >>> >>> == >>> #!/bin/sh >>> >>> # touchtoggle.sh Copyright (C) 2019 by Steve Litt >>> # All rights reserved. >>> # Licensed via the >>> # Expat license: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Expat >>> >>> # FIRST GET DEVICE'S DEVICE ID CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "TOUCHPAD" >>> devid=`xinput | grep -i touchpad | \ >>> sed -e"s/.*id=//" | sed -e"s/\s.*//"` >>> >>> # WITH THAT DEVICE ID, FIND EVERYTING ABOUT PROPERTY >>> # CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "DEVICE ENABLED" >>> scratchline=`xinput --list-props 11 | \ >>> grep -i "device enabled" | \ >>> sed -e"s/^\s*//" | sed -e"s/\s*$//"` >>> proptext=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/\s*(.*//"` >>> propid=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*(//" | sed -e"s/).*//"` >>> currstate=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*):\s*//"` >>> >>> # DIAGNOSTICS, COMMENT OUT WHEN FULLY FUNCTIONAL >>> echo diagnostic devid =$devid >>> echo diagnostic scratchline=$scratchline >>> echo diagnostic proptext =$proptext# >>> echo diagnostic propid =$propid >>> >>> # TOGGLE CURRSTATE VARIABLE >>> echo -n "Current state of $currstate " >>> if test "$currstate" = "1"; then >>> currstate=0 >>> else >>> currstate=1 >>> fi >>> echo has been changed to $currstate. >>> >>> # IMPLEMENT THE PROPERTY VALUE CHANGE >>> xinput set-prop $devid $propid $currstate >>> >>> # UNCOMMENT FOLLOWING LINE IF PROPERTY ID STOPS WORKING >>> #xinput set-prop $devid "$proptext" $currstate >>> >>> == >>> >>> I've had several versions of this shellscript, so please let me know >>> whether it works for you. >> Note you might as well open your laptop and unplug the touchpad. >> Just search for a tutorial on how to change it. >> >> -- Didier > Yes, in principle. The times I need my touchpad are > * when my mouse battery runs out and I don't have a new one at hand > * when my mouse mysteriously fails > * when I'm travelling and I've forgotten my mouse > etc. > In few of these cases is it practical to take my computer apart and > reconnect the touchpad, > but it can be easy to run a shell command after hitting control-alt-F1 > and logging in. > > -- hendrik Depending on your hardware and driver the easiest solution is to blacklist the synaptics driver and modprobe it by hand whenever necessary. Grtz Nick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Disabling touchpad
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 03:55:37PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > The attached touchtoggle.sh should fulfill your exact needs. Just > associate it with a convenient hotkey. Something worth noting is that it's reasonable to reference your stuff by name. For instance, on my T420: $ xinput | grep Synaptics ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPadid=11 [slave pointer (2)] Note that you *don't* have to parse out the ID. I can say, as an example: xinput disable "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad ...and it'll do the right thing, far more simply. -- Mason Loring Bliss ma...@blisses.org Ewige Blumenkraft! awake ? sleep : random() & 2 ? dream : sleep; -- Hamlet, Act III, Scene I signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
