Re: [DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics? SOLVED
On 2/4/21 11:20 PM, terryc wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 17:28:41 -0700 Fred wrote: Hello, Devuan Beowulf AMD64 Is there a configuration file somewhere that allows adjustment of mouse resolution and acceleration? Gpm is not installed by default and I haven't been able to find anything (USB) mouse related. Using Xfce4 under Applications -> Settings -> Mouse and trackpad are all the mouse setings. Otherwise on my Beowulf installation there are 462 files to do with "mouse" covering its use in various programs. The few looked at didn't seem to be text config files. Since i do almost all my work in xterms or a gui, that covers my needs. Perhaps if you explained your need exactly, someone may be able to assist. FWIW, my biggest problem with mice is finding one that fits my hand comfortably and I've never found a solution by spending $$$. Weirdly, since the days of mouse port cars. basic 'microsoft' mice have always worked best. YMMV. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Hello, The problem was that the mouse was way too sensitive, meaning the pointer would go too far for a small mouse movement. xset q showed the mouse settings to be the same as another computer running Beowulf i386 so the problem was the mouse itself. I didn't like that mouse anyway so I bought a $6.88 mouse from Walmart. It works fine with the default settings and I now know how to change them if needed. Thanks for the help. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 13:23 +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐On Friday, February 5, 2021 11:12 AM, > Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > Am 4. Februar 2021 20:13:49 MEZ schrieb g4sra g4...@protonmail.com: > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐On Thursday, February 4, 2021 > > > 6:59 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote:Thanks > > > for the reply Florian > > > > Am 4. Februar 2021 18:15:06 MEZ schrieb g4sra via Dng > > > > dng@lists.dyne.org: > > > > > Does anyone know how to re-enable a Synaptics Touchpad in > > > > > Linux after it has been turned off in Windows using Fn+F9 ? > > > > > > > > If this key combo really changed something "in hardware", i > > > > assume that a "hard reset" of the notebook(?!) should solve the > > > > issue...Usually, this is accomplished by removing all power > > > > sources and periphery, and then holding down the power button > > > > for 15-20 seconds. The idea is to remove any stored electricity > > > > (from ac adapter, battery, capacitors) to clear all non- > > > > persistent storage. > > > > > > That is what googling said too, unfortunately it didn't work. > > > > Your devices miles may vary, the manual should mention it. > > > > > > The manual is not much use at all, being digital it won't even > > > serve purpose in the WC. > > > > libre grüße,Florian > > > > > > By first installing Windows 7 and then the Synaptic drivers on an > > > old HDD I was able to restore touchpad functionality with the > > > Fn+F9 switching. This is a programmable multi-gesture touchpad > > > which I guess may have flash memory.There has got to be a better > > > way > > > > Hallo g4sra, > > as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring > > the issue back to the list: > > Thanks for that. This email client will not reply to the list. It > considers to do so a security issue because of an authentication > failure. If I post directly to the list then the message thread is > lost. > I have tried something new.. it will allow me to CC, so I have done > that replying directly to you, deleted the To, and promoted the CC, > so if the message id has remained intact this may be a way around the > problem. > > > Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting the device, if you'd reveal > > its make and model? > > Laptop make is mostly irrelevant as the hardware is self-contained as > manufactured by Synaptics. I believe the communication is SMBus in > this instance, I know of no way to interrogate the touchpad itself > other than by what is reported using Synaptics drivers for Windows. > > Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove the CMOS battery - or > > does the notebook provide a button (or pins) to reset the bios > > password? > > Yes, I did a thorough cold power-up. > > > libre Grüße,Florian > > I am looking for a 'Linux software' solution to this > problem.Currently grepping the kernel source to see if any giveaways > in the DTB sources. > > > > > ___Dng mailing > list...@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Sorry if I missed it, but did you ever just boot into the bios and look for the toggle there? I know you said you're looking for a linux software solution to this, but I thought I'd mention this since I hadn't seen it mentioned. My apologies if I missed it somewhere. According to a web search about the subject (serverfault I believe) bios makers sometimes work with microsoft to provide limited api type functionality (for things like the f9 you mentioned I assume). In my case, I can turn off the touchpad through the bios under config > keyboard/mouse. Gabe ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics?
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 05:33:13PM +1100, terryc wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 22:35:25 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > 2) Use it on a high quality, clean mousepad. > > Mousepad? > We haven't use one since we purchased new custom computer desks for the > SOHO. The 'desk' is actually a slab of kitchen bench top covered > with a nice looking laminex(?) called yellow pepper or some such. On my laptop, the black area beside the touchpad is a great surface for an optical mouse. -- hendrik > > Works great with all optical mice and the only maintennce is an > occassional brush out of fluff in the optic and a desk wipe down with a > basic cleaner. > > After 30+ years, the only problem is a growing worn patch from sliding > my wrist around. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring > > the issue back to the list: Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting > > the device, if you'd reveal its make and model? > > > > Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove the CMOS battery - or > > does the notebook provide a button (or pins) to reset the bios > > password? > > > > libre Grüße, > > Florian > > > > The following shellscript, called touchtoggle.sh, should do what you > need. > > == > #!/bin/sh > > # touchtoggle.sh Copyright (C) 2019 by Steve Litt > # All rights reserved. > # Licensed via the > # Expat license: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Expat [...] It's a useful script, and thanks -- but I suggest you immediately add a second line below that 'Licensed via the Expat license' one: # Expat license's requirement to include permission notice text is waived. Otherwise, anyone seeking to redistribute your script is committing the tort of copyright violation unless he/she provides with it a copy of the ~20 lines of Expat License text. I'm pretty sure you were not meaning to impose such a legal obligation on redistributors. BTW, it's some weird FSF fetish to refer to it as "Expat License". Everyone else on planet Earth (including OSI: https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT) refers to it as MIT License. To be tiresomely pedantic, what you used is the commendably minimalist form of MIT's licence that it issued for the Expat graphics library. MIT's slightly longer wording issued attached to the X Consortium software and used (e.g.) for X.org code to this day differs only in having a sentence prohibiting users from mentioning X Consortium in advertising or promotion without written permission, and one stating that "X Window System" is a trademark of X Consortium, Inc. There is no _functional_ difference. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 01:23:16PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting the device, if you'd reveal its > > make and model? > > Laptop make is mostly irrelevant as the hardware is self-contained as > manufactured by Synaptics. I believe the communication is SMBus in this > instance, I know of no way to interrogate the touchpad itself other than by > what is reported using Synaptics drivers for Windows. Doesn't the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package do that and more? ael ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Fw: Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
Hi all, g4sra asked me to forward this to the DNG list. Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 13:50:52 + From: g4sra To: Steve Litt Subject: Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, February 5, 2021 1:04 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 05 Feb 2021 12:12:33 +0100 > Florian Zieboll via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > > By first installing Windows 7 and then the Synaptic drivers on an > > > old HDD I was able to restore touchpad functionality with the > > > Fn+F9 switching. This is a programmable multi-gesture touchpad > > > which I guess may have flash memory. > > > There has got to be a better way > > > > Hallo g4sra, > > as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring > > the issue back to the list: Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting > > the device, if you'd reveal its make and model? > > Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove the CMOS battery - or > > does the notebook provide a button (or pins) to reset the bios > > password? > > libre Grüße, > > Florian > > The following shellscript, calledtouchtoggle.sh, should do what you > need. > > > > #!/bin/sh > > touchtoggle.sh Copyright (C) 2019 by Steve Litt > > > > All rights reserved. > > = > > Licensed via the > > = > > Expat license: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Expat > > > > FIRST GET DEVICE'S DEVICE ID CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "TOUCHPAD" > > > > devid=`xinput | grep -i touchpad | \\ sed -e"s/.*id=//" | sed > -e"s/\\s.*//"` > > WITH THAT DEVICE ID, FIND EVERYTING ABOUT PROPERTY > > === > > CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "DEVICE ENABLED" > > = > > scratchline=`xinput --list-props 11 | \\ grep -i "device enabled" | > \\ sed -e"s/^\\s*//" | sed -e"s/\\s*$//"` proptext=`echo $scratchline > | sed -e"s/\\s*(.*//"` propid=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*(//" | > sed -e"s/).*//"` currstate=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*):\\s*//"` > > DIAGNOSTICS, COMMENT OUT WHEN FULLY FUNCTIONAL > > === > > echo diagnostic devid =$devid > echo diagnostic scratchline=$scratchline > echo diagnostic proptext =$proptext# > echo diagnostic propid =$propid > > TOGGLE CURRSTATE VARIABLE > > == > > echo -n "Current state of $currstate " > if test "$currstate" = "1"; then > currstate=0 > else > currstate=1 > fi > echo has been changed to $currstate. > > IMPLEMENT THE PROPERTY VALUE CHANGE > > > > xinput set-prop $devid $propid $currstate > > UNCOMMENT FOLLOWING LINE IF PROPERTY ID STOPS WORKING > > == > > #xinput set-prop $devid "$proptext" $currstate > > === > > I've had several versions of this shellscript, so please let me know > whether it works for you. > > SteveT Thanks Steve, Brilliant The script works well when the computer boots with the touchpad initially enabled. When I am feeling brave I will swap drives, disable it in windows, swap drives again and see if I can enable it from Linux. Please bounce this back onto the mailing list. my CC trickery results in double-posting. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, February 5, 2021 11:12 AM, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Am 4. Februar 2021 20:13:49 MEZ schrieb g4sra g4...@protonmail.com: > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:59 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng > > dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > Thanks for the reply Florian > > > > > Am 4. Februar 2021 18:15:06 MEZ schrieb g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org: > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to re-enable a Synaptics Touchpad in Linux after > > > > it has been turned off in Windows using Fn+F9 ? > > > > > > If this key combo really changed something "in hardware", i assume that a > > > "hard reset" of the notebook(?!) should solve the issue... > > > Usually, this is accomplished by removing all power sources and > > > periphery, and then holding down the power button for 15-20 seconds. The > > > idea is to remove any stored electricity (from ac adapter, battery, > > > capacitors) to clear all non-persistent storage. > > > > That is what googling said too, unfortunately it didn't work. > > > > > Your devices miles may vary, the manual should mention it. > > > > The manual is not much use at all, being digital it won't even serve > > purpose in the WC. > > > > > libre grüße, > > > Florian > > > > By first installing Windows 7 and then the Synaptic drivers on an old HDD I > > was able to restore touchpad functionality with the Fn+F9 switching. This > > is a programmable multi-gesture touchpad which I guess may have flash > > memory. > > There has got to be a better way > > Hallo g4sra, > > as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring the issue > back to the list: Thanks for that. This email client will not reply to the list. It considers to do so a security issue because of an authentication failure. If I post directly to the list then the message thread is lost. I have tried something new.. it will allow me to CC, so I have done that replying directly to you, deleted the To, and promoted the CC, so if the message id has remained intact this may be a way around the problem. > Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting the device, if you'd reveal its make > and model? Laptop make is mostly irrelevant as the hardware is self-contained as manufactured by Synaptics. I believe the communication is SMBus in this instance, I know of no way to interrogate the touchpad itself other than by what is reported using Synaptics drivers for Windows. > > Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove the CMOS battery - or does the > notebook provide a button (or pins) to reset the bios password? > Yes, I did a thorough cold power-up. > libre Grüße, > Florian > I am looking for a 'Linux software' solution to this problem. Currently grepping the kernel source to see if any giveaways in the DTB sources. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
On 05-02-2021 12:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Am 4. Februar 2021 20:13:49 MEZ schrieb g4sra : >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:59 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng >> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reply Florian >> >>> Am 4. Februar 2021 18:15:06 MEZ schrieb g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org: >>> Does anyone know how to re-enable a Synaptics Touchpad in Linux after it has been turned off in Windows using Fn+F9 ? >>> If this key combo really changed something "in hardware", i assume that a >>> "hard reset" of the notebook(?!) should solve the issue... >>> >>> Usually, this is accomplished by removing all power sources and periphery, >>> and then holding down the power button for 15-20 seconds. The idea is to >>> remove any stored electricity (from ac adapter, battery, capacitors) to >>> clear all non-persistent storage. >> That is what googling said too, unfortunately it didn't work. >> >>> Your devices miles may vary, the manual should mention it. >> The manual is not much use at all, being digital it won't even serve purpose >> in the WC. >>> libre grüße, >>> Florian >>> >> By first installing Windows 7 and then the Synaptic drivers on an old HDD I >> was able to restore touchpad functionality with the Fn+F9 switching. This is >> a programmable multi-gesture touchpad which I guess may have flash memory. >> >> There has got to be a better way > > Hallo g4sra, > > as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring the issue > back to the list: Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting the device, if > you'd reveal its make and model? > > Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove the CMOS battery - or does the > notebook provide a button (or pins) to reset the bios password? > > libre Grüße, > Florian > > It depends how it is governed in Windows but you could try to load a WIN PE iso and press Fn+F9. Grtz. Nick ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
On Fri, 05 Feb 2021 12:12:33 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > By first installing Windows 7 and then the Synaptic drivers on an > > old HDD I was able to restore touchpad functionality with the Fn+F9 > > switching. This is a programmable multi-gesture touchpad which I > > guess may have flash memory. > > > > There has got to be a better way > > > Hallo g4sra, > > as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring > the issue back to the list: Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting > the device, if you'd reveal its make and model? > > Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove the CMOS battery - or > does the notebook provide a button (or pins) to reset the bios > password? > > libre Grüße, > Florian > The following shellscript, called touchtoggle.sh, should do what you need. == #!/bin/sh # touchtoggle.sh Copyright (C) 2019 by Steve Litt # All rights reserved. # Licensed via the # Expat license: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Expat # FIRST GET DEVICE'S DEVICE ID CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "TOUCHPAD" devid=`xinput | grep -i touchpad | \ sed -e"s/.*id=//" | sed -e"s/\s.*//"` # WITH THAT DEVICE ID, FIND EVERYTING ABOUT PROPERTY # CONTAINING CASE INSENSITIVE "DEVICE ENABLED" scratchline=`xinput --list-props 11 | \ grep -i "device enabled" | \ sed -e"s/^\s*//" | sed -e"s/\s*$//"` proptext=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/\s*(.*//"` propid=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*(//" | sed -e"s/).*//"` currstate=`echo $scratchline | sed -e"s/.*):\s*//"` # DIAGNOSTICS, COMMENT OUT WHEN FULLY FUNCTIONAL echo diagnostic devid =$devid echo diagnostic scratchline=$scratchline echo diagnostic proptext =$proptext# echo diagnostic propid =$propid # TOGGLE CURRSTATE VARIABLE echo -n "Current state of $currstate " if test "$currstate" = "1"; then currstate=0 else currstate=1 fi echo has been changed to $currstate. # IMPLEMENT THE PROPERTY VALUE CHANGE xinput set-prop $devid $propid $currstate # UNCOMMENT FOLLOWING LINE IF PROPERTY ID STOPS WORKING #xinput set-prop $devid "$proptext" $currstate == I've had several versions of this shellscript, so please let me know whether it works for you. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9
Am 4. Februar 2021 20:13:49 MEZ schrieb g4sra : > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:59 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng > wrote: > > Thanks for the reply Florian > > > Am 4. Februar 2021 18:15:06 MEZ schrieb g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org: > > > > > Does anyone know how to re-enable a Synaptics Touchpad in Linux after it > > > has been turned off in Windows using Fn+F9 ? > > > > If this key combo really changed something "in hardware", i assume that a > > "hard reset" of the notebook(?!) should solve the issue... > > > > Usually, this is accomplished by removing all power sources and periphery, > > and then holding down the power button for 15-20 seconds. The idea is to > > remove any stored electricity (from ac adapter, battery, capacitors) to > > clear all non-persistent storage. > > That is what googling said too, unfortunately it didn't work. > > > > > Your devices miles may vary, the manual should mention it. > > The manual is not much use at all, being digital it won't even serve purpose > in the WC. > > > > libre grüße, > > Florian > > > > By first installing Windows 7 and then the Synaptic drivers on an old HDD I > was able to restore touchpad functionality with the Fn+F9 switching. This is > a programmable multi-gesture touchpad which I guess may have flash memory. > > There has got to be a better way Hallo g4sra, as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring the issue back to the list: Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting the device, if you'd reveal its make and model? Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove the CMOS battery - or does the notebook provide a button (or pins) to reset the bios password? libre Grüße, Florian -- ooops... [message sent otg] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
