Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-22 Thread Dimitris via Dng

Hey Olaf,

Στις 22/4/21 11:55 π.μ., ο/η Olaf 
Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε:

Is debfoster smart(er) about asking what you want to keep?  As in asking
you about the packages that keep most of the other packages installed
first (rather than going through potential removals alphabetically)?


yes.

debfoster only asks about installed packages : "Keep, Y/N" and keeps all 
dependant installed packages on "Y" , or adds another question about 
keeping dependencies on a "N".
after first succesful run, you're only asked about newly installed 
packages from that moment on..


debfoster installation has no real dependencies (just already installed 
libc iirc) and it's just one command to run (=easy to remember).


d.




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Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-22 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng

On Tue 20/Apr/2021 16:03:59 +0200 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:

find /usr/bin -atime +360 | xargs -l1 apt-file find | sort


I would suggest dpkg -S instead of apt-file find, which matches prefix, not 
exact file. I would also filter on the package name and ensure unicity. Also, 
never log in as root.


Here would me my quick & dirty take at your command chain:
find /usr/bin -atime +360 | xargs -l1 sudo dpkg -S | awk -F ':' '{print $1}' | 
sort | uniq



Nice command.  If found some 76 packages, including, for example, gcc-4.8, 
setcd, wmtime...

Thanks to all also for the apt- and debfoster- based methods.  They need more 
thought.


On the dark side, something bad happened during the upgrade, which I only 
realized later:

*pulseaudio* was surreptitiously installed.  Beowulf worked well without it, 
and Chimaera also worked well as soon as I removed it.

*python* was not installed at all.  How come?


Best
Ale
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Re: [DNG] update a virtual pc with chimaera

2021-04-22 Thread Joril via Dng

On 21/04/21 20:46, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
I try to update a virtual pc with chimaera and it gives me the following 
error:
W: Fallo al obtener 
http://192.168.0.73/devuan/chimaera/pool/DEBIAN/main/m/make-dfsg/make_4.3-4.1_amd64.deb
File has unexpected size (384048 != 395632). Mirror sync in progress? 
[IP: 192.168.0.73 80]

Hashes of expected file:
  - SHA256:a1a83af8cbd854af887b72ad196b1f4af58387815e21ced1000253a116a46e2a
  - MD5Sum:ad23a28085ea694f6677b80baca3ff34 [weak]
  - Filesize:395632 [weak]
The mirror is recently updated


Maybe your mirror mirrored a "sync-in-progress" mirror? Have you tried 
updating your mirror again?

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Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Florian, Dimitris,

Florian Zieboll via Dng writes:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:34:34 +0300
> Dimitris via Dng  wrote:
>
>> Στις 21/4/21 2:53 μ.μ., ο/η Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε:
>> >
>> > The first time around, there will be quite a long list of packages
>> > that are candidates for removal.  Even without a desktop environment
>> > installed the list can be several tens of packages.  Look for the
>> > "top-level" kind of packages to `apt-mark manual`, things like
>> > task-xfce-desktop, so you don't have to add a long list of packages.
>> > You can `apt-mark auto` them later and fine-tune your list of
>> > manually installed packages.
>> >
>> > # This is how I whittle down the list of xserver-xorg-video-*
>> > packages # that I really need :-)
>> >
>>
>>
>> i believe debfoster package can do the same thing (if i understand
>> correctly)...

That jogged 15(+?) year old memory ...

> Yes, 'debfoster' is a neat tool. I usually install and run it straight
> after the first minimal system installation and then regularly after
> installing additional packages. When you have the 'Install-Recommends'
> and 'Install-Suggests' options disabled in your 'apt' config, it keeps
> track of the manually selected additional packages; if an in depth
> maintenance is desired, there are the '--no-keeperfile' and
> '-ignore-default-rules' options.

... but seeing that apt-mark and a couple of APT configuration settings
will do the same I don't see why I would need to install debfoster these
days when apt provides everything already.

Is debfoster smart(er) about asking what you want to keep?  As in asking
you about the packages that keep most of the other packages installed
first (rather than going through potential removals alphabetically)?

Hope this helps,
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