Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-15 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 14 May 2021 14:27:15 +0200
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult"  wrote:

> On 09.05.21 08:33, tito via Dng wrote:
> 
> > So the first question that arises is:
> > how could open source and free software projects ensure
> > protection from damage up to data loss if actually even proprietary
> > software comes with no warranty at all?  
> 
> Make it crystal clear, that our software is neither a product, nor
> service, nor anything near to any commercial thing, but instead just
> a piece of art, like a novel or a poem.

A programming language used to write code is not different than the
English an author uses to write a story.

It would take some effort to explain, but programming and authoring do
map to one another.

For example, it's a long-time pursuit for many programmers to author
more natural language-like readable code.

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[DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-05-15 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
The rise of the new inquisition as a respondent has aptly described is
worrying. A person loses all their merits as a consequence of one
error, controversial opinion or belief. An intellectually brilliant
person like Stallman is more than one opinion or belief. The several
decades they have lived for and the work they did to improve software
accessibility to lower social classes can never be denied: this is a
fact. Free open source software is more financially accessible to the
lower classes. Besides that, software lock-ins are quite rare if not
completely not present. I can only write about my particular case, in
which free software has increased my ability to experience different
types of applications without spending thousands of Euros.

The new trend to discredit completely anyone who makes such
controversial claims, is more like a modern socially accepted way of
humiliation of anyone not adhering to what must be 'obvious'. There
are other ways of admonishing anyone besides 'accepted' character
assassinations. In my opinion, this is a move towards the past when
beliefs challenging the accepted status quo were publicly chastised.

The proper reaction should not be one of a complete character
devaluation and assassination, but one which points out any possible
problematic scenarios as a direct consequence of such an opinion or
belief.
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Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-05-15 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng

This is by far the best analysis of how the first GR vote went down:

Combatting revisionist history
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20=120652


Thank you a lot for that golinux!

> There was never a systemd debate
Yup.

> [...] the discussion becomes fractured and disjointed, in what is 
literally the textbook definition of bikeshedding

Yup, yup. Yup.

Bookmarking that and sharing that around next time and/or with folks it 
feels necessary.


Bernard (Beer) Rosset
https://rosset.net/
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