[DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense
Hi all, I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan. The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in the default repos. After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run and to my knowledge will never be able to w/o systemd sockets. So, may I suggest that it is removed from the default repos, as it is misleading for beginners and may lead to unnecessary bug reports. IIRC, the policy is not to remove anything related, but use stubs and let the user deal with half-broken software (ie. GNOME). Cockpit doesn't (currently) have dependencies on systemd and it's modules, but it requires a systemd socket to function. So, AFAICT, it is not even partially usable. Best regards, Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 24 May 2021 at 21:25:16, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs > > which is then sent to Chinese servers. > > Sorry, but what are you talking about? > > > I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent > > solution. > > Firewalls can work both ways :) > > > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? > > I really think you need to tell us what hardware you're referring to. > > As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware, I > would say: > > a) very unlikely, given the storage capacity typically available > > b) very disappointing even if you manage, given the performance of eBook > reader CPUs, and especially eInk displays Yes, but if he does manage, he should be able to program an ebook rader that does what he wants instead of what the Chinese copany wants. > > c) very inconvenient, assuming it's a device with a touch screen and no > Bluetooth or USB OTG mode (which would have enabled you to connect an > external > mouse and/or keyboard). Early ebook readers from Kobo used a Linux kernel, and could be booted from an inserted SD card (they had a slot for this). Booting from inserted SD card was also how they did upgrades. Someone managed to write a simple game for it, after heavy reverse engineering. As far as I know no documentation was ever made available for those who wished to program the thing; in particular, there ws no documebtation for the screen and touch drivers. I have seen no such bootable slot in any of the current Kobo ebook readers. > > There are, of course, many eBook readers running Android, but that's a far > cry > from a full GNU / Linux setup. > > > Antony. > > -- > "The problem with television is that the people must sit and keep their eyes > glued on a screen; the average American family hasn't time for it." > > - New York Times, following a demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair. > >Please reply to the list; > please *don't* CC me. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf
Somehow, you are still on "testing" instead of "stable" ... Use "apt update" instead of "apt-get update" ... apt will prompt for you to agree to switch. Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Many thanks Olaf, for your help. > > On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:29:25 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> The error message is about linux-libc-dev which is at 4.19.181-1 for >> Beowulf. So while close, the mirror that your apt-get install used was >> out-of-date. Try running `apt-get update` and `apt-get install` again. > Well if I issue "apt-get update", I get: > > root@aroeira:~# apt-get update > Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease [33.2 kB] > Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease [25.7 kB] > Reading package lists... Done > E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease' changed its > 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable' > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be > applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. > E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease' > changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing-security' to 'stable-security' > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be > applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. > > It doesn't say how to accetp this change. > > Sorry for my newbeeness and thanks again, > > Luciano. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install
On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:46:06 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor > wrote: > > > > Greetings > > > > Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope. > > Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install. > > Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this > > is an EFI setup. > > > > Thought I'd check things. > You bet - - - - had it on legacy boot not efi boot. > Changed that and did another install. > At the boot after install - - - oops - - - no joy. > > Complaints of no run init: can't execute /sbin/init: no such file or > directory. > > Now this I have no ideas on how to fix - - - - please advise. > > (This is using the devuan dvd to install from. If this doesn't work > - - - - well - - - I'm now out of my depth!) For my clean install of Beowulf, I had to use Expert Mode to get the EFI boot choice. Having Legacy Mode on or off in BIOS made no difference. You also need a dedicated EFI partition (type ef00, EFI System type) formatted FAT32 mounted on /boot/efi which should show in the installer partitioner tool. You don't need a dedicated /boot partition. The boot folder under / is sufficient. Thoroughly study the install instructions, especially about setting up efi. B ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor wrote: > > Greetings > > Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope. > Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install. > Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this is > an EFI setup. > Thought I'd check things. You bet - - - - had it on legacy boot not efi boot. Changed that and did another install. At the boot after install - - - oops - - - no joy. Complaints of no run init: can't execute /sbin/init: no such file or directory. Now this I have no ideas on how to fix - - - - please advise. (This is using the devuan dvd to install from. If this doesn't work - - - - well - - - I'm now out of my depth!) TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000, terryc wrote in message <20210525083512.4f6a1...@dragonfly.woa.com.au>: > On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + > g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware > > performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily > > knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. > > > > > > > > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? > > Er, read an e-book on Devuan(jessie, ascii, beowulf and chamaera?)? > Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. ..and if you don't like okular, find alternatives with e.g. "man -k e-book" or "man -k ebook" or "apt-cache search e-book", and find the details on each with e.g. "apt-cache show okular". -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf
> N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can > be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. > > It doesn't say how to accetp this change. > > Sorry for my newbeeness and thanks again, > > Luciano. > > > This may have already been addressed before me. To accept this you need > to run apt update not apt-get update. > Vernon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf
> On 25 May 2021, at 05:14, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > > Many thanks Olaf, for your help. > >> On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:29:25 +0900 >> Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> The error message is about linux-libc-dev which is at 4.19.181-1 for >> Beowulf. So while close, the mirror that your apt-get install used was >> out-of-date. Try running `apt-get update` and `apt-get install` again. > Well if I issue "apt-get update", I get: > > root@aroeira:~# apt-get update > Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease [33.2 kB] > Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease [25.7 kB] > Reading package lists... Done > E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease' changed its > 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable' > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be > applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. > E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease' > changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing-security' to 'stable-security' > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be > applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. > > It doesn't say how to accetp this change. > > Sorry for my newbeeness and thanks again, > > Luciano. Try with apt-get update --allow-releaseinfo-change ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf
On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:19:25 +0200 Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Many thanks Olaf, for your help. > > On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:29:25 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > > The error message is about linux-libc-dev which is at 4.19.181-1 for > > Beowulf. So while close, the mirror that your apt-get install used > > was out-of-date. Try running `apt-get update` and `apt-get > > install` again. > Well if I issue "apt-get update", I get: > > root@aroeira:~# apt-get update > Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease [33.2 kB] > Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease [25.7 > kB] Reading package lists... Done > E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease' > changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable' N: This must be > accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be > applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. E: Repository > 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease' changed its > 'Suite' value from 'testing-security' to 'stable-security' N: This > must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be > applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. > > It doesn't say how to accetp this change. > > Sorry for my newbeeness and thanks again, What version(/etc/devuan_version is your system on? What version did you install? It sound like you might need to perform a 'sudo apt-get dist upgrade'. You have to use the repository that you installed, until you specifically tell it to jump forward. are the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list referencing stable or one of the versions(jessie, aascii, or beowulf?). Having a version there is better. performed the trifecta? (apt-get update > > Luciano. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware > performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily > knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. > > > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? Er, read an e-book on Devuan(jessie, ascii, beowulf and chamaera?)? Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Request for assistance with install
Greetings Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope. Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install. Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this is an EFI setup. Please advise TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Monday 24 May 2021 at 21:25:16, g4sra via Dng wrote: > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs > which is then sent to Chinese servers. Sorry, but what are you talking about? > I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent > solution. Firewalls can work both ways :) > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? I really think you need to tell us what hardware you're referring to. As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware, I would say: a) very unlikely, given the storage capacity typically available b) very disappointing even if you manage, given the performance of eBook reader CPUs, and especially eInk displays c) very inconvenient, assuming it's a device with a touch screen and no Bluetooth or USB OTG mode (which would have enabled you to connect an external mouse and/or keyboard). There are, of course, many eBook readers running Android, but that's a far cry from a full GNU / Linux setup. Antony. -- "The problem with television is that the people must sit and keep their eyes glued on a screen; the average American family hasn't time for it." - New York Times, following a demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf
Many thanks Olaf, for your help. On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:29:25 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > The error message is about linux-libc-dev which is at 4.19.181-1 for > Beowulf. So while close, the mirror that your apt-get install used was > out-of-date. Try running `apt-get update` and `apt-get install` again. Well if I issue "apt-get update", I get: root@aroeira:~# apt-get update Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease [33.2 kB] Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease [25.7 kB] Reading package lists... Done E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable' N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. E: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing-security' to 'stable-security' N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. It doesn't say how to accetp this change. Sorry for my newbeeness and thanks again, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 02485781 FAX: +39 0248028247 X AGAINST HTML MAIL/ E-MAIL: posthams...@sublink.sublink.org / \ AND POSTINGS/ WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Strange browser home
On Sun, 23 May 2021 09:01:51 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Interesting. Makes me wonder if, when firefox is started with a > file:/// style URL it bothers to pass the content of that file to the > remote firefox... Probably not A commandline with a file:// reference will just start or switch to Firefox in the same way that passing a URL will. Firefox would then perform the action as-appropriate. So if it is given either of http://example.com/foo.pdf or file:///path/to/foo.pdf it will act the same, probably fetching and rendering the PDF inline. (Although I don't know how, specifically, it loads or caches files from remote or local sources and if it does it differently for those two scenarios.) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PartialSolve Re: Chimaera; Lost sound
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 06:21:12PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> I'm still working on why the browsers(falkon & firefox-esr) and
> quiterss(what ever browser it loads) are not playing sound.
This is Beowulf, not Chimaera, but Firefox works fine with ALSA here,
including splitting input and output between different devices, etc.
$ cat ~/.asoundrc
pcm.!default {
type asym
playback.pcm {
type plug
slave.pcm "dmix"
}
capture.pcm {
type plug
slave.pcm "hw:2,0"
}
}
I arrived at hw:2,0 (card 2, subdevice 0 - my USB webcam) for capture based
on:
$ arecord -l
List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 2: ALC892 Alt Analog [ALC892 Alt Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: C525 [HD Webcam C525], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
We're plugging away at a wiki where we folks can easily document this
stuff.
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Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf
Hi Luciano, list, Apologies! I just noticed that I didn't pay enough attention to the package name and only focussed on the version :-/ Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng writes: > Hi Luciano, > > Luciano Mannucci writes: > >> On Fri, 21 May 2021 13:56:00 +0200 >> Joril via Dng wrote: >> >>> I can get pcre2 devel libs and .h, wich I'm unable to find >>> > for Beowulf. What sould I do? >>> >>> Isn't libpcre2-dev what you are looking for? >> Indeed. >> But if I issue "apt-get install libpcre2-dev", I get: >> E: Failed to fetch >> http://debian.ipacct.com/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_4.19.98-1_ppc64el.deb >> 404 Not Found [IP: 195.85.215.251 80] >> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with >> --fix-missing? >> >> Is it normal? > > No. This looks like your getting Packages from a mirror that's badly > outdated. > > libpcre2-dev has been on 10.x since at least Debian Stretch, so that's > what Devuan ASCII would have. For Beowulf, the version would be 10.32-5 > per > > $ apt-cache madison libpcre2-dev > libpcre2-dev |10.32-5 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 > Packages The error message is about linux-libc-dev which is at 4.19.181-1 for Beowulf. So while close, the mirror that your apt-get install used was out-of-date. Try running `apt-get update` and `apt-get install` again. > Did you run `apt-get update` recently? If so, you should probably fix > your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to > > deb http://dev.devuan.org/merged beowulf main > > and add contrib and non-free as necessary. You can check https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package=linux-libc-dev for the available versions. Have a look at each version's sources.list entry and find one that matches your APT sources. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ossec-hids for Beowulf
Hi Luciano, Luciano Mannucci writes: > On Fri, 21 May 2021 13:56:00 +0200 > Joril via Dng wrote: > >> I can get pcre2 devel libs and .h, wich I'm unable to find >> > for Beowulf. What sould I do? >> >> Isn't libpcre2-dev what you are looking for? > Indeed. > But if I issue "apt-get install libpcre2-dev", I get: > E: Failed to fetch > http://debian.ipacct.com/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_4.19.98-1_ppc64el.deb > 404 Not Found [IP: 195.85.215.251 80] > E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with > --fix-missing? > > Is it normal? No. This looks like your getting Packages from a mirror that's badly outdated. libpcre2-dev has been on 10.x since at least Debian Stretch, so that's what Devuan ASCII would have. For Beowulf, the version would be 10.32-5 per $ apt-cache madison libpcre2-dev libpcre2-dev |10.32-5 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages Did you run `apt-get update` recently? If so, you should probably fix your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to deb http://dev.devuan.org/merged beowulf main and add contrib and non-free as necessary. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
