Re: [DNG] ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity ditches spyware.

2021-08-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:34:46 -0700, spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com wrote
in message <20210709033446.7...@spiralofhope.com>:

> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 07:09:18 +0200
> Arnt Karlsen  wrote:
> 
> > ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity
> > ditches spyware:  FLOSS Audacity Fork without any Telemetry or
> > Reporting: https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity  
> 
> I'm pleased with Audacity's implementation.

..fair enough, and thanks for pushing me to check out the fork talk, 
it appears the majority of Audacity developers (or "Contributors" as
Github prefers to call them) still disagrees with you:
https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/graphs/contributors 184
https://github.com/SartoxOnlyGNU/audacium/graphs/contributors 143
https://github.com/AudioCity-Studio/AudioCity/graphs/contributors 139

..how many of the 136 stayed behind with the Muse Group?:
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/graphs/contributors

> Of note:
> 
> Audacity was acquired by Muse Group.
> 
> "I’m Now in Charge of Designing Audacity. Seriously." 
> Tantacrul:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMWNvwLiXIQ
> 
> Audacity is now restricted from minors, violating GPL:
> https://technewsinc.com/after-its-acquisition-audacity-takes-care-of-its-users-data/

..no shit!  So, does the Muse Group still believe they can 
distribute Audacity under the GPLv2? ;o)

..on Thu, 8 Jul 2021 00:23:51 + (UTC), Tim wrote in message 
<1195933771.683581.1625703831...@mail.yahoo.com>:

>  FYI, arstechnica says Audacity is not spyware: 
> No, open source Audacity audio editor is not “spyware”
> 
> The community's telemetry concerns were received and addressed two
> months ago. 

..thanks to Tim for pushing me to investigate that story, Jim did
indeed say that, initially.  And wise people update as they learn
more...
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/no-open-source-audacity-audio-editor-is-not-spyware/?comments=1

..and there's even more:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/audacitys-new-owner-is-in-another-fight-with-the-open-source-community/?comments=1

..it's like Github's next owner making you pay to see source code.
Sheet music is effectively the source code of music, and that 
analogy has been used to explain source code as a concept to the
general public, to legislators and to jurors and judges in courts.


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Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip-->

If you wish to play around (view) what the fonts you have installed actually 
look like, 'apt-get install x11-utils' will provide you with 'xfontsel' which 
is mouse driven.
It also indicates fonts missing from the system that it knows about as 'greyed 
out' in the menu selection, so you can at least track any missing font down by 
name.

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Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal. SOLVED

2021-08-22 Thread dvalin

   On 22.08.21 05:33, . wrote:
  > This link had some good info:
  >
  >
https://askubuntu.com/questions/161652/how-to-change-the-default-font-size-of-xterm
  > 
  >
  > I set up a .Xresources file and used "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources"
to
  > activate it.  Here's my .Xresources file:
  >
  > > xterm*faceName: DejaVu Sans Mono
  > > xterm*faceSize: 16
  >
  > As far as I know, the DejaVu fonts are utf-8 compliant.  (But I
may be
  > wrong.)

  
  Holey Moley! That displays not only apostrophes, but even an image
of  an open book, and a square-face robot head. And that fontsize is 
  certainly big enough. :-)
  
  
  Many thanks. That's a lot easier than futzing with a mystery mix
  of undocumented font commands, and superbly successful.
  
  
  Erik


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Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread dvalin

 On 22.08.21 10:45, al3xu5 wrote:
  > Sun, 22 Aug 2021 15:48:15 +0930 - dva...@internode.on.net:
  >
  > I have the `fonts-dejavu` package installed (not ttf-dejavu) with
a
  > very large Unicode character set; then running:

  Looks like I have that one:

  $ dpkg -l fonts-dejavu
  Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
  |
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
  |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
  ||/ Name   Version  Architecture
Description
 
+++-==---
  ii  fonts-dejavu   2.37-1   all 
metapackage to pull in fonts-dejavu-core and fonts-dej

  > ~~~
  > xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans" -fs 12
  > ~~~

  Hmm, here that just gives "tiny" fontsize, ~ 1.5mm character
height.
  And "-fs 24" does exactly the same, as does -fs 120. So not a lot
of
  joy there.

  > or
  >
  > ~~~
  > xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans Mono" -fs 12
  > ~~~

  As above, i.e no change.

  > it seems there are not troubles displaying any character (i.e.
`~-_àèù||¦
  > etc)

  Yes, even xterm (without -u8) displays the apostrophes and hyphens
_if_
  I leave off the "-fn 10x20". Now, if I can just find a way to
actually
  set the fontsize?

  Many thanks for the datapoints. It's a pity it's not working here.

  Erik


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Re: [DNG] Cannot install on W10 laptop (was: Re: Reinstalling unbootable laptop...) [SOLVED]

2021-08-22 Thread al3xu5

> > Using beowulf netinstaller (3.1.1), it starts with a blocking error:
> > 
> > ~~~
> > Loading Devuan beowulf installer in standard mode...
> > 
> > error: invalid sector size 0
> > error: you need to load the kernel first.
> > ~~~
 
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[...]

> Just a guess: is secureboot enabled?

Thanks for your suggestion.
Secureboot was/is disabled.


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Sun, 22 Aug 2021 19:19:32 +1000 - Ralph Ronnquist
:

> That error suggests that the partition holding the installer's kernel
> (off the ISO) is on a partition type that the efi boot program (also off
> the ISO) can't handle. E.g. extfat.
> 
> Is the install ISO on actual DVD or on USB? If on a USB, how did you
> write it? I.e., is that USB a true copy of the ISO?

The netinstall iso was on a UBS; I have writed it using dd as suggested in
the Devuan documentation.

--


Thanks to some investigation and the inspiration of your suggestions, I
realized that the problem could be due to some lock on the disk. And then
the first hypothesis was that this could be tied to the presence of W10 on
the machine. Indeed W10 had a hanging attempt hanging, and this created
the lock on the disc.

After restarting W10 and made a clean shutdown, I restarted with the
Beowulf 3.1.1 netinstall ISO (USB), and the installation went ahead
without further problems.

During the partitioning phase, I left unaltered the partitions created by
the Windows Installer, and I created in the unused space a new root
partition, a separate home partition and the swap partition.

Finally, the laptop has devuan again and turns off and restarts without
problems.

Thanks again. 

Regards
al3xu5

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Re: [DNG] Cannot install on W10 laptop (was: Re: Reinstalling unbootable laptop...)

2021-08-22 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 09:21:33 +0200
al3xu5  wrote:

> Sun, 15 Aug 2021 12:05:19 +0200 - al3xu5 :
> ...
> So now I'm trying to reinstall it with Devuan, but I can't.
> 
> Using beowulf netinstaller (3.1.1), it starts with a blocking error:
> 
> ~~~
>   Loading Devuan beowulf installer in standard mode...
> 
>   error: invalid sector size 0
>   error: you need to load the kernel first.
> ~~~

That error suggests that the partition holding the installer's kernel
(off the ISO) is on a partition type that the efi boot program (also off
the ISO) can't handle. E.g. extfat.

Is the install ISO on actual DVD or on USB? If on a USB, how did you
write it? I.e., is that USB a true copy of the ISO?


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Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread al3xu5
Sun, 22 Aug 2021 15:48:15 +0930 - dva...@internode.on.net:

> After having trouble displaying apostrophe and hyphen in recent
> posts  on several lists, I've found that it is not "xterm -u8" or
> uxterm which  are intrinsically deficient, but rather it is my "-fn
> 10x20" option which  is selecting a font size which presumably
> lacks  an adequate utf8  character set. I.e., without the fontsize
> option, the problem 
>   characters display OK.
> 
> The reason for that option is that even selecting "Huge" at 
> Ctrl-Right_Click gives an unreadably small font size.
> Does anyone know of a substantial fontsize with a more complete  utf8
> character set, or a howto on exploring installed X11 fonts and 
>   their size and unicode characteristics?
> Here, fc-list lists many fonts, without any useful size clues, and 
> "fc-match utf8" shows only one font:
> DejaVuSansttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
> And "xlsfonts | grep utf8" returns nothing.
> 
> And "xset q" shows: Font Path:
>  
> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins
> 
> Any thoughts on whether:  console-setup - console font and keymap
> setup program  might help?
> 
> Of the squillion font packages available, would there  be mileage in
> installing perhaps the first of:
> $ apt-cache search font | grep font | grep unicode | more
> fonts-cmu - sets the computer modern unicode fonts
> fonts-georgewilliams - Free unicode TrueType fonts by George Williams
> fonts-junicode - Unicode font for medievalists (Latin, IPA and Runic)
> fonts-lg-aboriginal - unicode fonts for North-American Aboriginal
> languages
> fonts-oflb-euterpe - unicode musical font
> fonts-senamirmir-washra - collection of unicode fonts for the Ethiopic
> script
> xfonts-efont-unicode - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X which cover various
> scripts
> xfonts-efont-unicode-ib - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X (italic and bold
> But what then? Any firm ground in this swamp would help a lot while
> I  work on building taller stilts. Google hits thus far furnish
> little or no  additional stuff to check or implement.
> 
> Erik
> 


Hi Erik

I have the `fonts-dejavu` package installed (not ttf-dejavu) with a
very large Unicode character set; then running:

~~~
xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans" -fs 12
~~~

or

~~~
xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans Mono" -fs 12
~~~

it seems there are not troubles displaying any character (i.e. `~-_àèù|\|¦
etc)

Regards
al3xu5

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Re: [DNG] Cannot install on W10 laptop (was: Re: Reinstalling unbootable laptop...)

2021-08-22 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2021 Sun, 22 Aug 09:21:33 +0200
 al3xu5 scripsit:
> Sun, 15 Aug 2021 12:05:19 +0200 - al3xu5 :
> 
> > About one or two years ago I had installed Devuan on my brother's laptop.
> > 
> > It is a Lenovo B50-10 (model 80QR), with a 64bit Intel N3540 CPU, 4GB
> > DDR1600 RAM and a mechanical 500GB HDD (see:
> > https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/cr/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-b-series-laptops/b50-10/80qr/documentation/doc_userguide)
> > 
> > Two weeks ago I tryed some BIOS changes and did an apt-get
> > update/upgrade. Do not remember neither which BIOS changes I tried, nor
> > the order I did changeas and apt-get...
> > 
> > This resulted in a unbootable system (a loop, booting and rebootin,
> > without starting the system).
> > 
> > [...]
> 
> 
> After a long battle, the notebook now starts correctly ... but to
> fix the boot issue I had to install W10 (UEFI).
> 
> So now I'm trying to reinstall it with Devuan, but I can't.
> 
> Using beowulf netinstaller (3.1.1), it starts with a blocking error:
> 
> ~~~
>   Loading Devuan beowulf installer in standard mode...
> 
>   error: invalid sector size 0
>   error: you need to load the kernel first.
> ~~~
> 
> Please help!

Just a guess: is secureboot enabled?

Anyway, you might have more lick using the chimaera iso - Id suggest the 
netistaller:

https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/

Nik


> 
> Regards
> al3xu5
> 



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Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-08-22 Thread aitor

Hi Alessandro,

On 15/8/21 18:08, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:

I guess we all ended up developing something similar. My take:
http://www.tana.it/svn/zdkimfilter/trunk/src/cstring.h
http://www.tana.it/svn/zdkimfilter/trunk/src/cstring.c

It's harsh as it assumes the caller _always_ checks return code.  The 
functions don't check for NULL on entry (albeit they often assert() 
it, a passage usually not compiled in production code.)  Non-nullness 
has to be checked by the caller, for example (from zaggregate.c in the 
same package):


    if (to_header)
    {
    to_header = cstr_printf(to_header, "%s %s",
    n_addr == 0? "To:": ",", dom->addr[i].addr);
    if (to_header && dom->addr[i].limit != UINT64_MAX)
    to_header = cstr_printf(to_header, " (limit=%" PRIu64 ")",
    dom->addr[i].limit);
    ++n_addr;
    }



Thanks for the link. I'll give it a try.

Cheers,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

2021-08-22 Thread aitor

Hi,

On 22/8/21 8:33, al3xu5 wrote:

Hi all

I am running Devuan Beowulf && LXDE, and I want to try snetaid &&
simple-netaid-cdk || simple-netaid-gtk...


Thanks for your interest on simple-netaid.


I have found some debs are at:

http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/s/

Please, can anyone tell me if it's the right place?


Yes, this is the right way and the last packaging.



Are that packages updated? Or is there a better way to install?
Though i'm rewriting it the above link is the stable release. Just 
change in the line:


Exec=sakura -e "sudo simple-netaid-cdk"

of /usr/share/applications/simple-netaid-cdk, "sakura" by "lxterminal" 
or "xterm"
or whatever you want. There aren't packages for the gtk interface yet, 
only ncurses.
I'm rewriting the gtk interface and the snetaid daemon because i have 
new ideas for the them.


Any doubt, please tell me.

Cheers,

Aitor.


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[DNG] Cannot install on W10 laptop (was: Re: Reinstalling unbootable laptop...)

2021-08-22 Thread al3xu5
Sun, 15 Aug 2021 12:05:19 +0200 - al3xu5 :

> About one or two years ago I had installed Devuan on my brother's laptop.
> 
> It is a Lenovo B50-10 (model 80QR), with a 64bit Intel N3540 CPU, 4GB
> DDR1600 RAM and a mechanical 500GB HDD (see:
> https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/cr/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-b-series-laptops/b50-10/80qr/documentation/doc_userguide)
> 
> Two weeks ago I tryed some BIOS changes and did an apt-get
> update/upgrade. Do not remember neither which BIOS changes I tried, nor
> the order I did changeas and apt-get...
> 
> This resulted in a unbootable system (a loop, booting and rebootin,
> without starting the system).
> 
> [...]


After a long battle, the notebook now starts correctly ... but to
fix the boot issue I had to install W10 (UEFI).

So now I'm trying to reinstall it with Devuan, but I can't.

Using beowulf netinstaller (3.1.1), it starts with a blocking error:

~~~
Loading Devuan beowulf installer in standard mode...

error: invalid sector size 0
error: you need to load the kernel first.
~~~

Please help!

Regards
al3xu5

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[DNG] snetaid debs...

2021-08-22 Thread al3xu5
Hi all

I am running Devuan Beowulf && LXDE, and I want to try snetaid &&
simple-netaid-cdk || simple-netaid-gtk...

I have found some debs are at:

http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/s/

Please, can anyone tell me if it's the right place? Are that packages
updated?

Or is there a better way to install? 

Thanks in advance

Regards
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[DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread dvalin

After having trouble displaying apostrophe and hyphen in recent
posts  on several lists, I've found that it is not "xterm -u8" or
uxterm which  are intrinsically deficient, but rather it is my "-fn
10x20" option which  is selecting a font size which presumably
lacks  an adequate utf8  character set. I.e., without the fontsize
option, the problem 
  characters display OK.

The reason for that option is that even selecting "Huge" at 
Ctrl-Right_Click gives an unreadably small font size.
Does anyone know of a substantial fontsize with a more complete  utf8
character set, or a howto on exploring installed X11 fonts and 
  their size and unicode characteristics?
Here, fc-list lists many fonts, without any useful size clues, and 
"fc-match utf8" shows only one font:
DejaVuSansttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
And "xlsfonts | grep utf8" returns nothing.

And "xset q" shows: Font Path:
 
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins

Any thoughts on whether:  console-setup - console font and keymap
setup program  might help?

Of the squillion font packages available, would there  be mileage in
installing perhaps the first of:
$ apt-cache search font | grep font | grep unicode | more
fonts-cmu - sets the computer modern unicode fonts
fonts-georgewilliams - Free unicode TrueType fonts by George Williams
fonts-junicode - Unicode font for medievalists (Latin, IPA and Runic)
fonts-lg-aboriginal - unicode fonts for North-American Aboriginal
languages
fonts-oflb-euterpe - unicode musical font
fonts-senamirmir-washra - collection of unicode fonts for the Ethiopic
script
xfonts-efont-unicode - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X which cover various
scripts
xfonts-efont-unicode-ib - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X (italic and bold
But what then? Any firm ground in this swamp would help a lot while
I  work on building taller stilts. Google hits thus far furnish
little or no  additional stuff to check or implement.

Erik

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