Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

2021-09-18 Thread golinux
aitor has a network manager in his Gnuinos distribution based on 
simple-netaid that edbarx put together years ago but iiuc, it is still a 
wip.


KatolaZ wrote the setnet script (no GUI) but it hasn't been touched for 
years: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/setnet


wicd has been the default in Xfce It is brain-dead simple and reliable. 
Many users are unhappy with the remaining options. I hope that it can be 
resurrected.


golinux

On 2021-09-18 16:58, Steve Litt wrote:

I thought some members of the Devuan community made something superior
to wicd *and* that silly dbus enthusiast network-manager.

SteveT


goli...@devuan.org said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 11:27:01 -0500


Thanks for responding.

wicd has indeed been removed from Chimaera. Sadly, there are reports
of frustration that the available options are not as intuitive as
wicd. However, there is hope! Someone is looking at transitioning wicd
to python3 so keep your fingers crossed.

To fill a gap, rrq has provided a "classic" networking "how-to" that
will be included in the www documentation.  It is already available on
the netinstall isos:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso/src/branch/wip/docs/docs/docs/network-configuration.html

golinux

On 2021-09-18 10:12, Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote:

Hello golinux.

I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network
Configuration*
section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no
longer
distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in
python2, and
there has been no release since 2014.

As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a
possible
replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which
advertize
itself as a slim and low on resources.

As a quick poll, does anybody has a preferred network manager?


 Ludovic

On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote:


Request to the Devuan community . . .

As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some
feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which
is applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should
be carried forward for use in Chimaera.

These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who
provided updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he
has not been seen for a very long time or responded to email
queries.

You can find the docs that need reviewing here:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/

All releases

General information
Installing Devuan
Full disk encryption
Network configuration
Devuan without D-Bus
D-Bus free software
Minimal xorg install
Minimal XFCE install

Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues
would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
The WWW Team



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Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

2021-09-18 Thread Steve Litt
I thought some members of the Devuan community made something superior
to wicd *and* that silly dbus enthusiast network-manager.

SteveT


goli...@devuan.org said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 11:27:01 -0500

>Thanks for responding.
>
>wicd has indeed been removed from Chimaera. Sadly, there are reports
>of frustration that the available options are not as intuitive as
>wicd. However, there is hope! Someone is looking at transitioning wicd
>to python3 so keep your fingers crossed.
>
>To fill a gap, rrq has provided a "classic" networking "how-to" that 
>will be included in the www documentation.  It is already available on 
>the netinstall isos:
>https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso/src/branch/wip/docs/docs/docs/network-configuration.html
>
>golinux
>
>On 2021-09-18 10:12, Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote:
>> Hello golinux.
>> 
>> I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network 
>> Configuration*
>> section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no 
>> longer
>> distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in 
>> python2, and
>> there has been no release since 2014.
>> 
>> As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a 
>> possible
>> replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which 
>> advertize
>> itself as a slim and low on resources.
>> 
>> As a quick poll, does anybody has a preferred network manager?
>> 
>> 
>>  Ludovic
>> 
>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
>>   
>>> Request to the Devuan community . . .
>>> 
>>> As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some 
>>> feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which
>>> is applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should
>>> be carried forward for use in Chimaera.
>>> 
>>> These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who
>>> provided updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he
>>> has not been seen for a very long time or responded to email
>>> queries.
>>> 
>>> You can find the docs that need reviewing here:
>>> https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/
>>> 
>>> All releases
>>> 
>>> General information
>>> Installing Devuan
>>> Full disk encryption
>>> Network configuration
>>> Devuan without D-Bus
>>> D-Bus free software
>>> Minimal xorg install
>>> Minimal XFCE install
>>> 
>>> Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues
>>> would be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> The WWW Team  
>> 
>>   
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Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

2021-09-18 Thread golinux

Thanks for responding.

wicd has indeed been removed from Chimaera. Sadly, there are reports of 
frustration that the available options are not as intuitive as wicd. 
However, there is hope! Someone is looking at transitioning wicd to 
python3 so keep your fingers crossed.


To fill a gap, rrq has provided a "classic" networking "how-to" that 
will be included in the www documentation.  It is already available on 
the netinstall isos:

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso/src/branch/wip/docs/docs/docs/network-configuration.html

golinux

On 2021-09-18 10:12, Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote:

Hello golinux.

I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network 
Configuration*
section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no 
longer
distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in 
python2, and

there has been no release since 2014.

As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a 
possible
replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which 
advertize

itself as a slim and low on resources.

As a quick poll, does anybody has a preferred network manager?


 Ludovic

On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote:


Request to the Devuan community . . .

As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some 
feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is 
applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be 
carried forward for use in Chimaera.


These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided 
updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not 
been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries.


You can find the docs that need reviewing here:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/

All releases

General information
Installing Devuan
Full disk encryption
Network configuration
Devuan without D-Bus
D-Bus free software
Minimal xorg install
Minimal XFCE install

Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would 
be most appreciated.


Thanks,
The WWW Team




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Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

2021-09-18 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 18 Sep 17:12:54 +0200
 Ludovic Bellière via Dng scripsit:
> Hello golinux.
> 
> I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network Configuration*
> section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no longer
> distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in python2, 
> and
> there has been no release since 2014.
> 
> As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a possible
> replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which advertize
> itself as a slim and low on resources.
> 
> As a quick poll, does anybody has a prefered network manager?

network-manager, as it has a TDE package network-manager-tde and that's the 
desktop I  use. And it just works.

Nik


> 
> 
>   Ludovic
> 
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> 
> >Request to the Devuan community . . .
> >
> >As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some 
> >feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is 
> >applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be 
> >carried forward for use in Chimaera.
> >
> >These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided 
> >updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not 
> >been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries.
> >
> >You can find the docs that need reviewing here:
> >https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/
> >
> >All releases
> >
> >General information
> >Installing Devuan
> >Full disk encryption
> >Network configuration
> >Devuan without D-Bus
> >D-Bus free software
> >Minimal xorg install
> >Minimal XFCE install
> >
> >Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would 
> >be most appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >The WWW Team
> 



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Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

2021-09-18 Thread Ludovic Bellière via Dng

Hello golinux.

I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network Configuration*
section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no longer
distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in python2, and
there has been no release since 2014.

As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a possible
replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which advertize
itself as a slim and low on resources.

As a quick poll, does anybody has a prefered network manager?


 Ludovic

On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote:


Request to the Devuan community . . .

As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some 
feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is 
applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be 
carried forward for use in Chimaera.


These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided 
updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not 
been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries.


You can find the docs that need reviewing here:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/

All releases

General information
Installing Devuan
Full disk encryption
Network configuration
Devuan without D-Bus
D-Bus free software
Minimal xorg install
Minimal XFCE install

Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would 
be most appreciated.


Thanks,
The WWW Team


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