Re: [DNG] unsubscribe
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Re: [DNG] unsubscribe
Me too cannot unsubscribe even have tried it hard On 9/22/21, Owen wrote: > Hi, > Tried multiple times to unsubscribe but don't know which address you are > sending this to on my domain. > > Please could some admin unsubscribe *@gonwanda.net > > Reason being: the last 2 downloaded ISOs failed to boot into the installed > system. The one before it just crapped itself FUBAR. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > -- > Owen > o...@gonwanda.net > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, at 22:31, Haines Brown wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 06:09:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>> Hi hal, Haines, >>> >>> hal writes: >>> >>> > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: >>> >> I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of >>> >> this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports >>> >> bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no >>> >> reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? >>> > >>> > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth >>> > 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as >>> > well. You might be able to use either, or both. >>> > >>> >> It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB >>> >> bluetooth connection with a motherboard. >>> > >>> > As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux >>> > kernel (of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those >>> > electronics. >>> > >>> > Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I >>> > don't tend to use it myself. >>> >>> No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get >>> rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >> >> Thanks, Olaf, it did. A problem ia that I'm wedded to the old Intel >> M-5 keyboards and geting them to use Bluetooth sounds like a challenge. >> >> -- >> Haines Brown >> ___ >> Dng mailing list >> Dng@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] unsubscribe
Hi, Tried multiple times to unsubscribe but don't know which address you are sending this to on my domain. Please could some admin unsubscribe *@gonwanda.net Reason being: the last 2 downloaded ISOs failed to boot into the installed system. The one before it just crapped itself FUBAR. Thanks in anticipation. -- Owen o...@gonwanda.net On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, at 22:31, Haines Brown wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 06:09:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi hal, Haines, >> >> hal writes: >> >> > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: >> >> I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of >> >> this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports >> >> bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no >> >> reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? >> > >> > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth >> > 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as >> > well. You might be able to use either, or both. >> > >> >> It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB >> >> bluetooth connection with a motherboard. >> > >> > As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux >> > kernel (of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those >> > electronics. >> > >> > Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I >> > don't tend to use it myself. >> >> No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get >> rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop. >> >> Hope this helps, > > Thanks, Olaf, it did. A problem ia that I'm wedded to the old Intel > M-5 keyboards and geting them to use Bluetooth sounds like a challenge. > > -- > Haines Brown > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
g4sra via Dng wrote: > I opt to live dangerously..(shove an '-r' in there too if you feel like it) > $ rm -i .* * > this way you can delete illegitimate entries without hacking the filesystem. That is definitely dangerous indeed. For example if for whatever reason one happens to have "-f" as a file name then it will override the "-i" listed as a command line option and then all files will be deleted without question. $ mkdir /tmp/testdir $ cd /tmp/testdir $ touch ./-f .foo foo $ echo rm -i .* * rm -i . .. .foo -f foo $ rm -i .* * rm: cannot remove '.': Is a directory rm: cannot remove '..': Is a directory $ ll -a -rw-rw-r-- 1 rwp rwp0 Sep 22 14:57 -f drwxrwxr-x 2 rwp rwp 60 Sep 22 14:57 ./ drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 760 Sep 22 14:57 ../ Where is .foo? Where is foo? There was no -i prompt. The -f file is still on disk and not removed? All correct behavior given the command as given. When dealing with file globs like "*" it is always better to prefix it with "./" as in "./*" so as to avoid the first character having any possibility of matching a dash and being interpreted as an option. You make your own luck! :-) [[ I have seen people intentionally leave a -i file in their home directory so as to intentionally have rm * cause it to be interpreted as an option. I recommend not relying upon it though. ]] Bob signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] devuan gitea broken?
On 2021-09-22 07:54, tito via Dng wrote: Hi, is there any problem with devuan's gitea web interface? It loads so slowly that it is impossible to work with it. My connectivity seems ok as all other sites work as expected. Ciao, Tito It seems so! git was extremely sluggish last night when several of us had an impromptu meet to work on updating the website for Chimaera and we were just looking not actually committing anything. Ralph should be able to figure it out. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"
On September 22, 2021 6:31:43 AM CDT, Haines Brown wrote: :: :: Thanks for the help. sure! :: :: In the past I looked on line to see whether folks had luck with a :: motherboard, but the Gigabyte Z-590 is too new. There are only hints :: it might work but also a problem or two has shown up. :: :: As the result I've not acquired any exprtise matching :: kernels and chipsets. For example, how did you find out that the AORIS :: wifi chiop appearss to be Intel GE? It is not specified in Gigabyte :: specs. I just did a search on the motherboard and then scrolled around all the fluff on the websites to look for the specs on the actual electronics. I found some on this page here (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Intel-Z590) :: :: Then I'm unsure how to find if whether a spefic kernel has a module :: for a specific chipset. generally, just a quick search using Linux, and the chipset, as a search term should turn up something. here is a phoronix article (https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Linux-5.11-Networking) saying intel 6E support is in the 5.11 kernel. if you're distro has the 5.11 kernel, this all suggests the wifi chip should work. now, having support is one thing. stability is another. just because the support is there doesn't mean it will work flawlessly. sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't. I usually look for forum postings to see what the real world stability is like. generally newer stuff has crappier support and stability. it's been getting much better in the past few years though it's hardware vendors have finally discovered that not everybody is running Windows. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] devuan gitea broken?
Hi, is there any problem with devuan's gitea web interface? It loads so slowly that it is impossible to work with it. My connectivity seems ok as all other sites work as expected. Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 06:09:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi hal, Haines, > > hal writes: > > > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: > >> I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of > >> this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports > >> bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no > >> reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? > > > > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth > > 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as > > well. You might be able to use either, or both. > > > >> It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB > >> bluetooth connection with a motherboard. > > > > As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux > > kernel (of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those > > electronics. > > > > Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I > > don't tend to use it myself. > > No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get > rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop. > > Hope this helps, Thanks, Olaf, it did. A problem ia that I'm wedded to the old Intel M-5 keyboards and geting them to use Bluetooth sounds like a challenge. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:52:38PM -0500, hal wrote: > > > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: > > I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of > > this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports > > bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no > > reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? > > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with > Bluetooth 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired > LAN port as well. You might be able to use either, or both. Thanks for the help. In the past I looked on line to see whether folks had luck with a motherboard, but the Gigabyte Z-590 is too new. There are only hints it might work but also a problem or two has shown up. As the result I've not acquired any exprtise matching kernels and chipsets. For example, how did you find out that the AORIS wifi chiop appearss to be Intel GE? It is not specified in Gigabyte specs. Then I'm unsure how to find if whether a spefic kernel has a module for a specific chipset. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"
Hi hal, Haines, hal writes: > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote: >> I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of >> this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports >> bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no >> reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong? > > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth > 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as > well. You might be able to use either, or both. > >> It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB >> bluetooth connection with a motherboard. > > As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux > kernel (of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those > electronics. > > Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I > don't tend to use it myself. No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Some questions to update the debian to devuan migration script
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 12:38:09AM +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > some questions I hope somebody on the list can answer: > > 1) is debian-pulseaudio-config-override still needed in chimaera? > Found out myself: seems not. > > 2) are other config-override packages needed (for standard debian DE setups) > as I see there are a few in the repos? There are just 2 in chimaera: debian-podman-config-override and devuan-speech-dispatcher-config-override. > 3) are these config-override packages automagically sucked in by > installing some devuan package? The speech-dispatcher override is automatically installed if you do a speech install, but not otherwise. The podman override will need to be installed manually if you use podman. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
