Re: [DNG] broken dependency chain for libgtk-3-dev ?

2021-12-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi,

alphalpha--- via Dng writes:

> Hello
> is anyone else having this problem or is it just me?
> -
> sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev
>
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libatspi2.0-dev : Depends: libatspi2.0-0 (= 2.38.0-4) but 2.42.0-2~bpo11+1 is 
> to be installed
> libepoxy-dev : Depends: libepoxy0 (= 1.5.5-1) but 1.5.8-1~bpo11+1 is to be 
> installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> -

I believe `dpkg --audit` would tell you about any broken packages and
running `dpkg --pending` might fix them up.  Also `apt-mark showhold`
ought to list any packages that are on hold and `apt-mark unhold` will
remove the hold.

However, seeing that apt wants to install packages from backports, I'd
disable that in your APT sources first and give it another try.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] RGBling

2021-12-28 Thread onefang
On 2021-12-28 11:09:12, tempforever wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 01:55:34PM +1000, onefang wrote:
> >> I skimped on the graphics card, coz gamers made everyone put RGBling on
> >> everything, so I had to back up one model to get one without RGBling.  I
> >> wish I could have done the same for the RAM, AND gotten ECC, but alas
> >> neither was available.  The RGBling on the RAM can ONLY be controlled
> >> from Windows, and doesn't remember it's settings after reboot. I can
> >> disable RGBling on motherboard from BIOS and case from a switch.   This
> >> desktop sits on the floor, but projects RGBling onto my high ceiling. 
> >> Pffft
> > What is RGBling?
> >
> >
> Obviously, I'm not onefang, but I believe he is referring to the flashy
> light fad that has pervaded the consumer computer market.  I took it as
> a play on "RGB" (red-green-blue) and "Bling"

Correct.

> Do we really need clear panel cases and lighting on internal parts? 
> Apparently, many manufacturers believe so.

At least the case I have for my super desktop allowed me to swap the
glass front for a metal back.  So now the RGBling is only leaking out of
the various cooling vents and holes for fans.

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Re: [DNG] broken dependency chain for libgtk-3-dev ?

2021-12-28 Thread aitor

Hi,

On 28/12/21 2:07, alphalpha--- via Dng wrote:

Hello
is anyone else having this problem or is it just me?

-
sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libatspi2.0-dev : Depends: libatspi2.0-0 (= 2.38.0-4) but 
2.42.0-2~bpo11+1 is to be installed
libepoxy-dev : Depends: libepoxy0 (= 1.5.5-1) but 1.5.8-1~bpo11+1 is 
to be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
-


No issues at me, libatspi2.0-dev_2.38.0-4 and libepoxy-dev_1.5.5-1 have 
been installed.


Cheers,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] RGBling

2021-12-28 Thread Fred

On 12/28/21 9:09 AM, tempforever wrote:

Hendrik Boom wrote:

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 01:55:34PM +1000, onefang wrote:

I skimped on the graphics card, coz gamers made everyone put RGBling on
everything, so I had to back up one model to get one without RGBling.  I
wish I could have done the same for the RAM, AND gotten ECC, but alas
neither was available.  The RGBling on the RAM can ONLY be controlled
from Windows, and doesn't remember it's settings after reboot. I can
disable RGBling on motherboard from BIOS and case from a switch.   This
desktop sits on the floor, but projects RGBling onto my high ceiling.
Pffft

What is RGBling?



Obviously, I'm not onefang, but I believe he is referring to the flashy
light fad that has pervaded the consumer computer market.  I took it as
a play on "RGB" (red-green-blue) and "Bling"

Do we really need clear panel cases and lighting on internal parts?
Apparently, many manufacturers believe so.
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And the cases that look like refugees from a Star Wars movie.

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Re: [DNG] broken dependency chain for libgtk-3-dev ?

2021-12-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 28 December 2021 at 02:07:09, alphalpha--- via Dng wrote:

> Hello
> is anyone else having this problem or is it just me?
> ---
> --sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev

> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libatspi2.0-dev : Depends: libatspi2.0-0 (= 2.38.0-4) but 2.42.0-2~bpo11+1
> is to be installed
> libepoxy-dev : Depends: libepoxy0 (= 1.5.5-1) but 1.5.8-1~bpo11+1 is to be
> installed

Here's what I get on a completely fresh Chimaera machine:

root@tempo:~# apt-get install libgtk-3-dev

... detail snipped ...

0 upgraded, 143 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 73.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 300 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

... more detail snipped ...

root@tempo:~# apt-cache policy libgtk-3-dev
libgtk-3-dev:
  Installed: 3.24.24-4
  Candidate: 3.24.24-4
  Version table:
 *** 3.24.24-4 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

root@tempo:~# aptitude show libepoxy-dev
Package: libepoxy-dev
Version: 1.5.5-1
Depends: libegl-dev, libepoxy0 (= 1.5.5-1), libgl-dev


I would look at "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages".

Have you pinned any packages at particular versions under 
/etc/apt/preferences.d ?


Antony.

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Re: [DNG] RGBling

2021-12-28 Thread tempforever
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 01:55:34PM +1000, onefang wrote:
>> I skimped on the graphics card, coz gamers made everyone put RGBling on
>> everything, so I had to back up one model to get one without RGBling.  I
>> wish I could have done the same for the RAM, AND gotten ECC, but alas
>> neither was available.  The RGBling on the RAM can ONLY be controlled
>> from Windows, and doesn't remember it's settings after reboot. I can
>> disable RGBling on motherboard from BIOS and case from a switch.   This
>> desktop sits on the floor, but projects RGBling onto my high ceiling. 
>> Pffft
> What is RGBling?
>
>
Obviously, I'm not onefang, but I believe he is referring to the flashy
light fad that has pervaded the consumer computer market.  I took it as
a play on "RGB" (red-green-blue) and "Bling"

Do we really need clear panel cases and lighting on internal parts? 
Apparently, many manufacturers believe so.
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[DNG] broken dependency chain for libgtk-3-dev ?

2021-12-28 Thread alphalpha--- via Dng
Hello
is anyone else having this problem or is it just me?
-sudo
 apt-get install libgtk-3-dev 

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libatspi2.0-dev : Depends: libatspi2.0-0 (= 2.38.0-4) but 2.42.0-2~bpo11+1 is 
to be installed
libepoxy-dev : Depends: libepoxy0 (= 1.5.5-1) but 1.5.8-1~bpo11+1 is to be 
installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
-

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[DNG] RGBling

2021-12-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 01:55:34PM +1000, onefang wrote:
> 
> I skimped on the graphics card, coz gamers made everyone put RGBling on
> everything, so I had to back up one model to get one without RGBling.  I
> wish I could have done the same for the RAM, AND gotten ECC, but alas
> neither was available.  The RGBling on the RAM can ONLY be controlled
> from Windows, and doesn't remember it's settings after reboot. I can
> disable RGBling on motherboard from BIOS and case from a switch.   This
> desktop sits on the floor, but projects RGBling onto my high ceiling. 
> Pffft

What is RGBling?

-- hendrik

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Re: [DNG] Ryzen?

2021-12-28 Thread d...@d404.nl

On 27-12-2021 18:54, Antony Stone wrote:

Hi.

Disclaimer: I generally don't like people saying things like "I read somewhere
that..." without backing up what they're talking about, but...

I'm sure I've read somewhere (and not especially recently) that Linux on AMD
Ryzen CPUs can be unreliable and/or surprisingly poor performance.

Can anyone comment on current (eg: Beowulf / Chimaera with standard kernels)
operation on such machines?

If it matters, I'm looking at desktop / tower / server motherboards and not
laptops, and I don't care two hoots about graphics - this would be for
networked machines accessed exclusively remotely.

Any opinions from personal experience, or pointers to reliable data, on the
topic would be appreciated :)


Thanks,


Antony.

One of my systems is a early build with a AMD 2400G a few years ago 
which had some graphics issues with X. One kernel later and manually 
added AMD APU firmware from kernel.org for the graphics part and 
everything runs smoothly ever since.


Grtz,

Nick


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