[DNG] What is your take on finit?
Hi! I saw this coming into Debian Sid, so should be available in Devuan Ceres as well: https://troglobit.com/projects/finit/ Sounds interesting, I'd say. Best, -- Martin ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > ... > > There are two options: > > > > 1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian > > 2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in > > it > > > > My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is > > volatile > > information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and > > that > > won't easily happen in Debian) > > Hi, > a stupid question, could the templates be added to the base-files package > that is already forked? It is not stupid at all - technically that is possible because there would be no filename conflict. But I do not think it is the proper way because that may create confusion and would be hard to track for anyone not knowing what was done. BTW I have no idea about the level of pureness desired, so I can't say. With best regards, b. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEumC8IPN+WURNbSUAE2VyCRPS8i0FAmHwpDcACgkQE2VyCRPS 8i2FTQ//UadDX/oN3Hzk1x3ubS4PX87Y4gzMkKAJLu/YEMV99Zb2QJZd3vvCryMw CyJTKfIxo9LipMSQrWvHmmO8lmcgzCD8zx+I/JvlJSf57ckmGOXkM/LPhmNwwWip aDnvDuatVNcI35f6mhd45jxzuXooz8+zG3R9c8TsnTJZC1pNe9DS9ZPA2UTxNgEq V3xLVrAh/7s+HY3/cI1ui0JurPTfD8COtqbV+BPGBpanqvAu4zBV8meWunzlOti4 xT9u8H0l+9myBAnJXwTwyF2Mw50DiDk5Y6kzyIGgxO5XCkbZYFr0cgY9IJ4xhJ04 ww1KTgoYQGDn1yHTh05MJsobSNqa1uy41+LcKLNFf9ewLkMb1rIff8916mTyswUW 4sID4QDTuCpdxjV2uRwaO4eWggB5TiI7rzQ798VhxSxAN+vwZu0IOPpqhEs8LwOw 3s/RZAm6o1uFJ6n/VIHTiTLbYVjYRCF/Qu0oHtJoYAl+g0mQfGZnU/AXm0pcpSox fTf2NE+bA0qo8bY/D5CIgh9TqtqoXFY3w/0uDXsWG5dGGLDWODvYO3+3GhHYx4Fv +eHAkWRCo24XBIbupqeVtpgOz/ABX9xoiV72XgQA6f9Gba+WeVPhrHBwqWNleO/T bX0lK2EUFu4q9DGNNxAK/clT7oD9JOzckx0BTTm6Go2JTggZHxk= =F05w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] software question
Hi, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:43:44AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hendrik Boom writes: >> > >> > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: >> > >> On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > Greetings >> > >> > >> > >> > For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk >> > >> > email for connection. >> > >> > >> > >> > Is there a linux program (foss hopefully) that will allow me to do >> > >> > this? >> > >> > >> > >> > (Sending regualr emails to a group of people (from 15 to 50 >> > >> > recipients).) >> > >> >> > >> With LibreOffice you can send personalized bulk mail. IIRC it was >> > >> quite annoying to set up, but once done, it worked. >> > > >> > > I just use /etc/aliases >> > >> > That was my first reaction too ;-) >> >> OK - - - I'm not a programmer in any shape way or form. >> My guess would be when using /etc/aliases - - - - that's some >> form of bash programming? using awk or ? >> >> Please advise? (purdy (sic) please. > > It's a list ot aliases. > > mom : al...@homeowners.ca > > tells that mail for mom is to be sent to al...@homowners.ca > > anglers: j...@fish.ca, al...@poisson.ca > > tells it that mail for anglers is to be sent to j...@fish.ca and also to > al...@poisson.ca > > And that's about all there is to it. entries in a line of > destinations can refer to other alias lines, but there's a onstraint > as to which has to come first. Details about the file format can be found at https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/opensmtpd/aliases.5.en.html > Try it out. Just edit an /etc/aliases into existence, and you'll > likely find it works if your system handles its own email. It does assume though that your mail software delivers through your system's sendmail alternative or, if not, pays attention to that file. Not sure if things like thunderbird (and libreoffice :-o!) do. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
Hi, tito via Dng writes: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:02:45 +0200 > Boian Bonev wrote: > >> ... >> > > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete >> > > > repositories in synaptic >> > > > that doesn't work as some template is missing: >> > > > >> > > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a >> > > > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera >> > > > >> > > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself >> > > > or to software-properties-gtk package. >> > > > >> > > > Ciao, >> > > > Tito >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Tito, >> > > It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for >> > > synaptic. Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template, >> > > and modified, but I probably got some things wrong). These two files go >> > > in /usr/share/python-apt/templates >> > > Hope this helps somewhat. >> > > >> > > Temp >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were >> > hidden. >> > Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without >> > exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan? >> >> The templates live in python-apt-common (this package is not forked in >> Devuan). >> >> There are two options: >> >> 1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian >> 2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it >> >> My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is >> volatile >> information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and >> that >> won't easily happen in Debian) > > Hi, > a stupid question, could the templates be added to the base-files package > that is already forked? Forking yet another package will add to the load but I don't think that adding the templates to base-files is a good idea. It hides their origin and quite likely leads to not noticing upstream changes. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
Hi, tito via Dng writes: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:27:52 +0100 > Didier Kryn wrote: > >> Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit : >> > Hi Tito, >> > >> > tito via Dng writes: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> [... snip synaptic error message due to missing distribution >> >> template for Devuan/chimaera ...] >> > >> > BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line >> > suits my needs just fine. >> > >> I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do >> the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it >> and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use >> Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading. > > Hi, > > for me synaptic is useful to find software I don't now about, > with simple queries I'm served a list of matches with summaries to choose > from. I use `apt search` or `apt-cache search` for that. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:02:45 +0200 Boian Bonev wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > ... > > > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete > > > > repositories in synaptic > > > > that doesn't work as some template is missing: > > > > > > > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a > > > > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera > > > > > > > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself > > > > or to software-properties-gtk package. > > > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > Tito > > > > > > > > > > > Tito, > > > It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for > > > synaptic. Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template, > > > and modified, but I probably got some things wrong). These two files go > > > in /usr/share/python-apt/templates > > > Hope this helps somewhat. > > > > > > Temp > > > > Hi, > > > > thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were > > hidden. > > Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without > > exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan? > > The templates live in python-apt-common (this package is not forked in > Devuan). > > There are two options: > > 1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian > 2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it > > My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is > volatile > information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and that > won't easily happen in Debian) Hi, a stupid question, could the templates be added to the base-files package that is already forked? > Also I have noticed that this is not existing: http://security.devuan.org/ and > MatchURI: is not proper in most cases (contents of Devuan.info) Yes this needs to be fixed. > I can help with packaging the forked python-apt-common but I can not help with > testing because I do not use aptitude. I can test it with synaptic if needed. Ciao, Tito > With best regards, > b. > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEumC8IPN+WURNbSUAE2VyCRPS8i0FAmHwc4UACgkQE2VyCRPS > 8i1OXBAAsy7yMsxzXrdHJ0BKFffzKhErDpZq5A5TqKNNwhTxWg/RqBgRAWzrNQ97 > XzJbsYuztcAMeSOyt0Sv0y2StzMqopjzwa9whkEEbOTS2sr0Lz76gTM84ExL7RBH > 5njGNSKT8I3bLdlXFdkVbbQj0WbSB0JRY6Y4gb2Xu80jhXuN/f5TweRghyd3izPX > fhVC3SETIUBp0dZ+UKGvSIIp1QXqNWCySyzF9nhHJMhuC4A5H9qf7vfHSLEvonqo > 6Je452rBE/A4teGT8Q+m28d2qbziKyKE2cdFxu0xrL/94Rdu/cSDF0LLtYpEIXmk > KunoIjDBMnCyhN5Xm1z5ErlXHeJOiY4CQ+57CuSEA0V9fK+rp8mw1nvicGahbzvv > f8s4pPCYi4KQOTh5/hphY+b/nCl6YLLZcdpkkt0nm1EQcGMemqJmPud6b9b5uB8M > SXc0Bem2O+sQIdaMeMbckrfGkU1aq1R4/CHU5H58lxB+UDP4Y8sxOe55ggGFx37t > 5rhPUf3B2nGna3YzV3/+w+qc4z1bvtEz9Kds6NNTk8tckhy2y80lemRZ994LZInE > UO6WkhYeP1UmeeIBKyUjuDGEZSXqF9rAgX5OuGpzOv2H3breV1uCiT/Ek2f1F3gj > m0MvqOwXH0mKvgCEmS3hQmDpWNS+wnEY5f9pq6DGMesP8O3Z/pA= > =Vxpy > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 ... > > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete > > > repositories in synaptic > > > that doesn't work as some template is missing: > > > > > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a > > > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera > > > > > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself > > > or to software-properties-gtk package. > > > > > > Ciao, > > > Tito > > > > > > > > Tito, > > It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for > > synaptic. Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template, > > and modified, but I probably got some things wrong). These two files go > > in /usr/share/python-apt/templates > > Hope this helps somewhat. > > > > Temp > > Hi, > > thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were > hidden. > Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without > exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan? The templates live in python-apt-common (this package is not forked in Devuan). There are two options: 1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian 2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is volatile information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and that won't easily happen in Debian) Also I have noticed that this is not existing: http://security.devuan.org/ and MatchURI: is not proper in most cases (contents of Devuan.info) I can help with packaging the forked python-apt-common but I can not help with testing because I do not use aptitude. With best regards, b. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEumC8IPN+WURNbSUAE2VyCRPS8i0FAmHwc4UACgkQE2VyCRPS 8i1OXBAAsy7yMsxzXrdHJ0BKFffzKhErDpZq5A5TqKNNwhTxWg/RqBgRAWzrNQ97 XzJbsYuztcAMeSOyt0Sv0y2StzMqopjzwa9whkEEbOTS2sr0Lz76gTM84ExL7RBH 5njGNSKT8I3bLdlXFdkVbbQj0WbSB0JRY6Y4gb2Xu80jhXuN/f5TweRghyd3izPX fhVC3SETIUBp0dZ+UKGvSIIp1QXqNWCySyzF9nhHJMhuC4A5H9qf7vfHSLEvonqo 6Je452rBE/A4teGT8Q+m28d2qbziKyKE2cdFxu0xrL/94Rdu/cSDF0LLtYpEIXmk KunoIjDBMnCyhN5Xm1z5ErlXHeJOiY4CQ+57CuSEA0V9fK+rp8mw1nvicGahbzvv f8s4pPCYi4KQOTh5/hphY+b/nCl6YLLZcdpkkt0nm1EQcGMemqJmPud6b9b5uB8M SXc0Bem2O+sQIdaMeMbckrfGkU1aq1R4/CHU5H58lxB+UDP4Y8sxOe55ggGFx37t 5rhPUf3B2nGna3YzV3/+w+qc4z1bvtEz9Kds6NNTk8tckhy2y80lemRZ994LZInE UO6WkhYeP1UmeeIBKyUjuDGEZSXqF9rAgX5OuGpzOv2H3breV1uCiT/Ek2f1F3gj m0MvqOwXH0mKvgCEmS3hQmDpWNS+wnEY5f9pq6DGMesP8O3Z/pA= =Vxpy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:20:18 -0500 tempforever wrote: > tito via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900 > > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > > >> Hi Tito, > >> > >> tito via Dng writes: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package > >>> manager i get: > >>> > >>> synaptic-pkexec > >>> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers' > >>> Traceback (most recent call last): > >>> File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in > >>> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, > >>> options=options, file=file) > >>> File > >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py", > >>> line 109, in __init__ > >>> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir) > >>> File > >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", > >>> line 109, in __init__ > >>> self.reload_sourceslist() > >>> File > >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", > >>> line 599, in reload_sourceslist > >>> self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist) > >>> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in > >>> get_sources > >>> raise NoDistroTemplateException( > >>> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a > >>> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera > >>> > >>> > >>> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again? > >> Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but > >> ... I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line > >> to check that your APT sources are okay. Probably > >> > >> sudo apt update > > Hi, > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete > > repositories in synaptic > > that doesn't work as some template is missing: > > > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a > > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera > > > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself > > or to software-properties-gtk package. > > > > Ciao, > > Tito > > > > > Tito, > It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for > synaptic. Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template, > and modified, but I probably got some things wrong). These two files go > in /usr/share/python-apt/templates > Hope this helps somewhat. > > Temp Hi, thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were hidden. Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan? Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:06:22 +0100 Michael Neuffer via Dng wrote: > > > On 1/25/22 10:27, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit : > >> Hi Tito, > >> > >> tito via Dng writes: > [...] > >> BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line > >> suits my needs just fine. > >> > >> > > I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do > > the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it > > and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use > > Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading. > > > > I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I > > haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with > > sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic". > > > > For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers > > configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in > > /etc/sudoers: > > > > Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY" > > > > Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY are needed in this case, the other > > variables serve other purposes. > > Why don't you use the trusty old dselect? > > Cheers >Mike But I want to use synaptic... :-( > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] software question
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:43:44AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng > wrote: > > > > > > Hendrik Boom writes: > > > > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > >> On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng > > >> wrote: > > >> > Greetings > > >> > > > >> > For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk > > >> > email for connection. > > >> > > > >> > Is there a linux program (foss hopefully) that will allow me to do > > >> > this? > > >> > > > >> > (Sending regualr emails to a group of people (from 15 to 50 > > >> > recipients).) > > >> > > >> With LibreOffice you can send personalized bulk mail. IIRC it was > > >> quite annoying to set up, but once done, it worked. > > > > > > I just use /etc/aliases > > > > That was my first reaction too ;-) > > OK - - - I'm not a programmer in any shape way or form. > My guess would be when using /etc/aliases - - - - that's some > form of bash programming? using awk or ? > > Please advise? (purdy (sic) please. It's a list ot aliases. mom : al...@homeowners.ca tells that mail for mom is to be sent to al...@homowners.ca anglers: j...@fish.ca, al...@poisson.ca tells it that mail for anglers is to be sent to j...@fish.ca and also to al...@poisson.ca And that's about all there is to it. entries in a line of destinations can refer to other alias lines, but there's a onstraint as to which has to come first. Try it out. Just edit an /etc/aliases into existence, and you'll likely find it works if your system handles its own email. -- hendrik > > I just use the tools in the computering universe so far - - - have > barely begun anything any deeper. (Starting with hardware - - - > putting together stuff for control and now starting for sensors.) > > TIA > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Screen readability (was Re: The Daedalus desktop needs some love)
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:12:40 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > If a software vendor prefers to make me install and learn a screen > reader rather than start with readable text, probably going to move to > alternative software. Like I did with Gobo. Now I have a fiction in my head about an old tech booting up a distribution with stdout being a daisy wheel printer and using a magnifying glass to compile a sane kernel to boot from. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
tito via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi Tito, >> >> tito via Dng writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package >>> manager i get: >>> >>> synaptic-pkexec >>> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers' >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in >>> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, >>> file=file) >>> File >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py", >>> line 109, in __init__ >>> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir) >>> File >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", >>> line 109, in __init__ >>> self.reload_sourceslist() >>> File >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", >>> line 599, in reload_sourceslist >>> self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist) >>> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in >>> get_sources >>> raise NoDistroTemplateException( >>> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a >>> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera >>> >>> >>> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again? >> Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but >> ... I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line >> to check that your APT sources are okay. Probably >> >> sudo apt update > Hi, > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete repositories > in synaptic > that doesn't work as some template is missing: > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself > or to software-properties-gtk package. > > Ciao, > Tito > > Tito, It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for synaptic. Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template, and modified, but I probably got some things wrong). These two files go in /usr/share/python-apt/templates Hope this helps somewhat. Temp Devuan.info Description: application/info http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/ #LOC:AM #LOC:AR #LOC:AT #LOC:AU #LOC:BE #LOC:BG #LOC:BR #LOC:BY #LOC:CA #LOC:CH #LOC:CL #LOC:CN #LOC:CR #LOC:CZ #LOC:DE #LOC:DK #LOC:EE #LOC:ES #LOC:FI #LOC:FR #LOC:GB #LOC:GE #LOC:GR #LOC:HK #LOC:HR #LOC:HU #LOC:ID #LOC:IL #LOC:IN #LOC:IR #LOC:IT #LOC:JP #LOC:KE #LOC:KG #LOC:KH #LOC:KR #LOC:KZ #LOC:LT #LOC:LU #LOC:LV #LOC:MD #LOC:MK #LOC:NC #LOC:NL #LOC:NO #LOC:NZ #LOC:PH #LOC:PL #LOC:PT #LOC:RE #LOC:RO #LOC:RS #LOC:RU #LOC:SE #LOC:SG #LOC:SI #LOC:SK #LOC:SV #LOC:TH #LOC:TR #LOC:TW #LOC:UA #LOC:US #LOC:UY #LOC:VN #LOC:ZA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
On 1/25/22 10:27, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit : Hi Tito, tito via Dng writes: [...] BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line suits my needs just fine. I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading. I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic". For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in /etc/sudoers: Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY" Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY are needed in this case, the other variables serve other purposes. Why don't you use the trusty old dselect? Cheers Mike ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:27:52 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit :
> > Hi Tito,
> >
> > tito via Dng writes:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package
> >> manager i get:
> >>
> >> synaptic-pkexec
> >> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in
> >> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir,
> >> options=options, file=file)
> >>File
> >> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
> >> line 109, in __init__
> >> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
> >>File
> >> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> >> line 109, in __init__
> >> self.reload_sourceslist()
> >>File
> >> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> >> line 599, in reload_sourceslist
> >> self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
> >>File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in
> >> get_sources
> >> raise NoDistroTemplateException(
> >> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
> >> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> >>
> >>
> >> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
> > Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
> > ... I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
> > to check that your APT sources are okay. Probably
> >
> >sudo apt update
> >
> > will do that trick. If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
> > didn't obviously break your APT setup.
> >
> > You might also want to post the output of
> >
> >sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
> >
> > so we can see what sources you're using.
> >
> > BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line
> > suits my needs just fine.
> >
> >
> I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do
> the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it
> and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use
> Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading.
Hi,
for me synaptic is useful to find software I don't now about,
with simple queries I'm served a list of matches with summaries to choose from.
Ciao,
Tito
> I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I
> haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with
> sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic".
>
> For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers
> configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in
> /etc/sudoers:
>
> Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY"
>
> Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY are needed in this case, the other
> variables serve other purposes.
>
> Hth.
>
> -- Didier
>
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> Hi Tito,
>
> tito via Dng writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package
> > manager i get:
> >
> > synaptic-pkexec
> > ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in
> > app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options,
> > file=file)
> > File
> > "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
> > line 109, in __init__
> > SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
> > File
> > "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> > line 109, in __init__
> > self.reload_sourceslist()
> > File
> > "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> > line 599, in reload_sourceslist
> > self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
> > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in
> > get_sources
> > raise NoDistroTemplateException(
> > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
> > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> >
> >
> > Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
>
> Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
> ... I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
> to check that your APT sources are okay. Probably
>
> sudo apt update
Hi,
apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete repositories in
synaptic
that doesn't work as some template is missing:
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself
or to software-properties-gtk package.
Ciao,
Tito
>
> will do that trick. If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
> didn't obviously break your APT setup.
>
> You might also want to post the output of
>
> sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
>
> so we can see what sources you're using.
>
> BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line
> suits my needs just fine.
>
> Hope this helps,
> --
> Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27
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Re: [DNG] software question
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > > Hendrik Boom writes: > > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > >> On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng > >> wrote: > >> > Greetings > >> > > >> > For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk > >> > email for connection. > >> > > >> > Is there a linux program (foss hopefully) that will allow me to do this? > >> > > >> > (Sending regualr emails to a group of people (from 15 to 50 recipients).) > >> > >> With LibreOffice you can send personalized bulk mail. IIRC it was > >> quite annoying to set up, but once done, it worked. > > > > I just use /etc/aliases > > That was my first reaction too ;-) OK - - - I'm not a programmer in any shape way or form. My guess would be when using /etc/aliases - - - - that's some form of bash programming? using awk or ? Please advise? (purdy (sic) please. I just use the tools in the computering universe so far - - - have barely begun anything any deeper. (Starting with hardware - - - putting together stuff for control and now starting for sensors.) TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit :
Hi Tito,
tito via Dng writes:
Hi,
while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package manager
i get:
synaptic-pkexec
ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in
app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options,
file=file)
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
line 109, in __init__
SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line
109, in __init__
self.reload_sourceslist()
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line
599, in reload_sourceslist
self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in
get_sources
raise NoDistroTemplateException(
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
... I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
to check that your APT sources are okay. Probably
sudo apt update
will do that trick. If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
didn't obviously break your APT setup.
You might also want to post the output of
sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
so we can see what sources you're using.
BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line
suits my needs just fine.
I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do
the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it
and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use
Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading.
I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I
haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with
sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic".
For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers
configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in
/etc/sudoers:
Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY"
Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY are needed in this case, the other
variables serve other purposes.
Hth.
-- Didier
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Re: [DNG] software question
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: >> On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng >> wrote: >> > Greetings >> > >> > For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk >> > email for connection. >> > >> > Is there a linux program (foss hopefully) that will allow me to do this? >> > >> > (Sending regualr emails to a group of people (from 15 to 50 recipients).) >> >> With LibreOffice you can send personalized bulk mail. IIRC it was >> quite annoying to set up, but once done, it worked. > > I just use /etc/aliases That was my first reaction too ;-) -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
Hi Tito,
tito via Dng writes:
> Hi,
> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package
> manager i get:
>
> synaptic-pkexec
> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in
> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options,
> file=file)
> File
> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
> line 109, in __init__
> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
> File
> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> line 109, in __init__
> self.reload_sourceslist()
> File
> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> line 599, in reload_sourceslist
> self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in
> get_sources
> raise NoDistroTemplateException(
> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
>
>
> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
... I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
to check that your APT sources are okay. Probably
sudo apt update
will do that trick. If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
didn't obviously break your APT setup.
You might also want to post the output of
sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
so we can see what sources you're using.
BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line
suits my needs just fine.
Hope this helps,
--
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