Re: [DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop
Fair enough; I remembered that I've also disabled "xfsettings" because it kept waking up my second monitor after I shut the lid. I'm using acpid to capture the lid button event, then invoking pm-suspend in the handler script (after resetting the keyboard and screen locking). Ralph. On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:24:43AM +0800, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > On 8/4/22 08:15, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > > afaik on chimaera xfce4 relies on elogind for handling "suspend on lid > > close", and this is something you may disable by a slight edit of > > /etc/elogind/logind.conf, to have the three assignments: > > HandleLidSwitch=ignore > > HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=ignore > > HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore > > > > Hopefully that will let your previous suspend solution work. > > > > G'day Ralph, > > No, that didn't work. xfce4-power-manager had already taken over the > monitoring and management and I couldn't > figure out how to stop it using elogind as the back-end even with all the > suspend/hibernate tasks disabled > in elogind. > > As pm-utils hasn't been updated in years, and xfce4 recently dropped support > for it entirely (removed the interface code) > I figure I'm going to have to make elogind work at some point, so it might as > well be now. > > Regards, > Brad > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop
On 8/4/22 08:15, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > afaik on chimaera xfce4 relies on elogind for handling "suspend on lid > close", and this is something you may disable by a slight edit of > /etc/elogind/logind.conf, to have the three assignments: > HandleLidSwitch=ignore > HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=ignore > HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore > > Hopefully that will let your previous suspend solution work. > G'day Ralph, No, that didn't work. xfce4-power-manager had already taken over the monitoring and management and I couldn't figure out how to stop it using elogind as the back-end even with all the suspend/hibernate tasks disabled in elogind. As pm-utils hasn't been updated in years, and xfce4 recently dropped support for it entirely (removed the interface code) I figure I'm going to have to make elogind work at some point, so it might as well be now. Regards, Brad ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop
afaik on chimaera xfce4 relies on elogind for handling "suspend on lid close", and this is something you may disable by a slight edit of /etc/elogind/logind.conf, to have the three assignments: HandleLidSwitch=ignore HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=ignore HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore Hopefully that will let your previous suspend solution work. Ralph. On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 08:58:36PM +0800, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day, > > I could use a bit of advice if anyone has the relevant experience. > > My laptop is running Devuan Beowulf currently, but this suspend config goes > back at least 10 years. > It suspends / hibernates using pm-utils with the uswsusp back-end onto a > dmycrypted swap partition. The kernel is vanilla with a cut-down config and > locally compiled. > > This works flawlessly and has done since I set it up. The GUI is xfce4 and > when I hit the power button xfce4-power-manager does all the right things > (which is hit up pm-utils and get out of its way). > > Last night I upgraded to Chimaera. This installed elogind and tries to use > that to pull the relevant kernel levers to suspend. Unfortunately on my > system, while it suspends most times, it comes back about 1 in 10 and then > usually the nvme is broken and it dies in a ball of flames. I spent the best > part of a day experimenting with the in-kernel suspend mechanisms and I can't > seem to make it work, while the trusty old uswsusp userspace suspend/resume > works first time every time. > > So, I'm asking for either : > - Experience in making the in-kernel mechanisms work; or preferably > - How to remove elogind from an xfce4 Chimaera install and make > xfce4-power-manager use pm-utils like it used to. > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thankfully I always backup the root partition before an upgrade, so a > rollback to a working system was only a quick rsync away. I'd like to upgrade > (and I've upgraded all my desktops) but working suspend is a not-negotiable > on a laptop. > > Regards, > Brad > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop
Hi Brad In der Nachricht vom Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:58:36 CEST schrieb Brad Campbell via Dng: > So, I'm asking for either : > - Experience in making the in-kernel mechanisms work; or preferably Updating the BIOS of your Box to the newest version might help here. Best regards, Adrian. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] FreedomBox on Devuan
Hi Has anyone tried to build a FreedomBox [1] image using freedom-maker on Devuan? Regards, Adrian. [1] https://freedombox.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop
G'day, I could use a bit of advice if anyone has the relevant experience. My laptop is running Devuan Beowulf currently, but this suspend config goes back at least 10 years. It suspends / hibernates using pm-utils with the uswsusp back-end onto a dmycrypted swap partition. The kernel is vanilla with a cut-down config and locally compiled. This works flawlessly and has done since I set it up. The GUI is xfce4 and when I hit the power button xfce4-power-manager does all the right things (which is hit up pm-utils and get out of its way). Last night I upgraded to Chimaera. This installed elogind and tries to use that to pull the relevant kernel levers to suspend. Unfortunately on my system, while it suspends most times, it comes back about 1 in 10 and then usually the nvme is broken and it dies in a ball of flames. I spent the best part of a day experimenting with the in-kernel suspend mechanisms and I can't seem to make it work, while the trusty old uswsusp userspace suspend/resume works first time every time. So, I'm asking for either : - Experience in making the in-kernel mechanisms work; or preferably - How to remove elogind from an xfce4 Chimaera install and make xfce4-power-manager use pm-utils like it used to. Does anyone have any ideas? Thankfully I always backup the root partition before an upgrade, so a rollback to a working system was only a quick rsync away. I'd like to upgrade (and I've upgraded all my desktops) but working suspend is a not-negotiable on a laptop. Regards, Brad ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] 'safe browsing'
Greetings mz googly is now pushing for her 'safe browsing' tool to be enabled. Methinks this is quite a trojan horse. What do those who really do know what they're doing (ie NOT me!!) think of this initiative? TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
