Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread DECbot



On September 24, 2020 5:52:20 AM Mark Rousell  
wrote:

On 23/09/2020 02:32, DECbot wrote:
Since my ISP is the devil and blocks port 25, I'm using autossh to forward 
port 25 traffic to a $5/month vps.
Do you have difficulty with your outgoing SMTP being blocked (often 
silently swallowed, from what I've seen) to certain large mail services 
using this approach? Many cheap VPS IP ranges have a very poor reputation 
with larger mail services such as Google, MS, Yahoo, etc.


--
Mark Rousell
I had to double check my config. I never got around to forward outgoing 
mail through my ssh tunnel. I'm still using the postfix relayhost parameter 
to granting me my ISP's blessing to smtp out to the rest of the world--and 
likely giving them a copy of all my outgoing mail and association it to my 
account. So my outgoing mail is not tied with my vps ip, but my residential 
ISP's smtp server.


There's also a chance that my outgoing email volume is too low to have 
noticed any difficulties besides things like my ISP making changes to smtp 
authentication (now only supporting tls on port 587) without any 
notification. This address is mostly for mailing lists and forums.


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Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-23 Thread DECbot

Hi,

I run a mail server for myself on a small pc (32-bit, 7 watt Via C7 Eden 
cpu) running Devuan. It was originally built on Debian Wheezy back in 2012 
following the wheezy guide found at https://workaround.org/ispmail/wheezy/. 
After the updates for wheezy trailed off, I followed the instructions on 
Devuan to update from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jesse and then updated to 
Ascii. The guide includes instructions for postfix and dovecot, as well as 
apache and roundcube for webmail support. One day in the near future, I'll 
retire the old hardware and attempt the guide again. Whenever I get around 
to rebuilding, I will look at LetsEncrypt to generate the ssl certs for 
roundcube and the tls encryption for the imap and smtp connections too. On 
the desktop, I'm using claws mail as well as evolution and on android I'm 
using aquamail. Pretty much anything that supports IMAP should be fine with 
this setup.


Since my ISP is the devil and blocks port 25, I'm using autossh to forward 
port 25 traffic to a $5/month vps.


Best Regards,

DECbot

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On September 22, 2020 2:54:12 PM Arnt Karlsen  wrote:


Hi,


..devuan to the rescue?  Norwegian ISP "Get" is ditching their email
service and pointing their clients to a paid service, which again is
pointing them to Gmail's ad laden services, drawing due scorn. [1]


..since we can do better, I'm thinking "Devuan Email Server Flavor"
sort of distro to put on an old pc or a Raspberry Pi, with all email
on local storage like I've done since the mid 1990ies.  Which is
part of my problem: While Claws Mail is neat and easy, Fetchmail
and Procmail are _far_ from newbie friendly.

..expect the Get clientele to be total newbies, who may be capable of
entering their own email account data into a web browser interface
from their Wintendo, so our new email server flavor needs to be kept
as stupid simple as possible to setup and use.


..limit it to a pop3 and imap client and an imap server with local
storage?  The big thing is control over your own email, on your own
hardware, in your own home.

..me, I use Fetchmail as an imap and pop3 client to fetch my email,
and Procmail to sprinkle it down my ~/Mail tree, and Claws Mail to
read it, and to write and to send my outgoing email, directly out
thru my isp's smtp servers.  That's all I really need.

..the Get clientele will have similar needs, but will need their
"home email server" as stupid simple as possible to setup and use.
Easiest possible newbie email server setup, use and support, ideas?

..the competition:
https://www.popsci.com/set-up-private-email-server/
https://www.geekwire.com/2015/why-you-shouldnt-try-to-host-your-own-email/
https://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/how-to-set-up-your-own-email-server/
https://www.linux.com/topic/networking/how-build-email-server-ubuntu-linux/
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3184925/how-to-have-a-linux-home-server-on-the-cheap.html
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/
https://jeffreifman.com/how-to-install-your-own-private-e-mail-server-in-the-amazon-cloud-aws/
https://www.iredmail.org/
https://docs.iredmail.org/why.build.your.own.mail.server.html


..'1: The Norw. original news story:
https://www.tek.no/nyheter/nyhet/i/Qml8dx/get-overfoerte-kundene-sine-til-epostselskap-som-naa-vil-ha-betalt-fo?utm_source=vgfront_content=row-30

..the above in googlish:
TESTS
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NEWS
Get transferred its customers to email companies that will now have
paid. - Reprehensible, says customer 
Customers who previously used Getmail were transferred to Wemail this
summer. Now Wemail requires customers to subscribe to keep their email
address.

Screenshot
Stein Jarle Olsen
and
Niklas Plikk
18 SEPT 2020 13:39

90+
This summer, Get (now Telia) notified customers who have used the email
service Getmail that their email service would be discontinued and that
they would be transferred to the external service Wemail. The problem?
A couple of weeks later, Wemail was informed that in a relatively short
time they would demand a subscription fee of 19 kroner a month for
customers to keep their emails.

Wemail, which is run by the company Recurrent AS, explains on its own
website that they are a Norwegian mail service without advertisements,
and that they do not use data about customers for commercial purposes.
Therefore, they are dependent on revenue from customers. Wemail
apparently has no other customers than the previous Get customers.

Several readers have contacted and reacted strongly to the fact that
they now have to pay for a service that was previously included.

"Directly reprehensible," says one. "Incredibly poor customer service",
says another, who is also upset that Wemail gave customers "very short"
deadlines and in practice threatened that the email archive would be
deleted and the ema

[DNG] ZFS on ASCII broken package prevents update to 7.12.2

2019-11-27 Thread DECbot
Hello DNG!

First time posting, so please let me know if I'm missing some
formalities.

I'm currently running up-to-date ASCII with ZFS on root. I'm attempting
to update ZFS from backports 0.7.12-1 to 0.7.12.2 but zfsutils-linux
does not resolve dependencies and thus prevents the update. Here's the
specifics:

zfs-dkms0.7.12-1~bpo9+1 --> 0.7.12-2+deb10u1
zfs-zed 0.7.12-1~bpo9+1 --> 0.7.12-2+deb10u1
zfsutils-linux  0.7.12-1~bpo9+1 --> 0.7.12-2+deb10u1

Apt lets me know I need insserv (< 1.18) for zfsutils-linux but 1.14.0-
5.4+b1 is the latest version available (and installed). 

To me, it looks like I might need to install the insserv package from
the beowulf repository, but I thought it might be a good idea to ask
before I muck around with things I don't do often. Can anyone give some
advice or experience in regards to this?

Thanks!

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