Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 23.02.2017 um 00:25 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> But it *is* importnt to have a collection of at least one desktop that
> actually works in accordance with our commitment to freedom, and its 
> consequent configurability.

That's right. But does it have to be a complete integrated desktop
environment? Does anyone know "Crunchbang Linux" (based on Wheezy) or
its successor "Bunsenlab Linux" (based on Jessie)? It's a simple
desktop, composed of openbox, tint2, some scripts and a nice theme. I
love it. I ported this desktop to my Devuan Jessie. The only downside:
the Crunchbang theme is not fully compatible with Jessie, because of
gtk3 in some applications. And I'm not familiar with repairing broken
themes. :-(

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Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 22.02.2017 um 10:12 schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
>
> Move from Gtk to Qt ?
>  
>

If you want to completely avoid Gtk, you have to go without many
non-gnome apps like LXDE and Xfce desktop environments, Claws Mail,
AbiWord, Chrome, Firefox, Midori, Pidgin and many more.

Do you really want to go without Firefox or Chrome?

The goal should be to make a system with applications linked against
gtk2 libraries, avoiding gtk3 totally.

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Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 22.02.2017 um 09:06 schrieb Rick Moen:
>
> Several of IgnorantGuru's blog posts from around that time speak to the 
> greatly increased GNOME lock-in that has plagued the gkt+3 series, 
> in sharp contrast to gtk+2.  

I totally agree with this problem, and I suffer from it after upgrading
my Crunchbang Linux to Devuan Jessie. Lots of applications are broken
because they now use gtk3 and themes are not compatible.
Even if the applications would support gtk2, you have to compile them
your own, because binary dsitributions with Gnome support link all the
applications againt gtk3.
I tend to leave Linux as a dekstop system, use it only for my headless
server systems. The Linux desktop is broken! :-(

The next step after "no systemd" should be "no gnome".

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Re: [DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi

2017-02-06 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 06.02.2017 um 12:11 schrieb Jaromil:
> The main reasons why Devuan acts like Debian in this case is that in
> Jessie we only operate to remove systemd, nothing else changes, while
> we still rely heavily on Debian for the bulk of binary builds.
>

Ok, I see it's Debians fault for the improper architecture
classification. VFP exists since ARMv5, but Debian decided to use VFP on
ARMv7 and above.
https://www.arm.com/products/processors/technologies/vector-floating-point.php

Are there any experiences what the impact on performance is, using
softfloat on a headless internet server box serving mainly files (smb,
http, ftp), doing no mathematic computations? Is FP used in encryption
technologies (ssl)?

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Re: [DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi

2017-02-06 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 06.02.2017 um 09:22 schrieb KatolaZ:
> Like, for the same reason why you use packages compiled for amd64 with
> your shiny Intel i5, despite you could have used packages compiled for
> an i486 back in 1994? :)
>

That's exactly the point. Nobody comes up with the idea to compile
packages for the Intel platform only for the newest shiny Corie i7. So
why do Devuan compile for ARMv7?

Raspbian made the decision to divide into architecture "armel" (PI 1A) 
and "armhf" (PI 1B and later). So Devuan should do the same. If not, it
comes to problems like mine: migrating from Raspbian Jessie with
architecture "armhf" ends in segmentation faults on many PIs.

The only option I have: install from scratch with Devuans "armel" Image.
But this is not really an option,  I will loose hardfloat, making my PI
even more slower than it already is. So I stay with Raspbian Jessie.

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[DNG] Power Button fires two acpi events

2017-01-02 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Hi,

on my Thinkpad T61 the power button fires two acpi events:

|button/power PBTN|
button/power LNXPWRBN:00

This is not a problem if you shutdown the computer, then the second
event is ignored. But if you try to suspend on power button, on resume
the second event causes it again to suspend immediately after resume.

I changed the power button script to ignore the LNXPWRBN event. But I'm
wondering what is causing this additional event? What is the purpose?

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Re: [DNG] Chromium 55

2016-12-13 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 13.12.2016 um 13:20 schrieb Stefan Krusche:
>
> I have Chromium 55.0.2883.75-1~deb8u1 on a 64-bit system available. It is in 
> jessie-security/main. Do you have security-updates repository enabled?

Yes, same repositories on both systems (32-/64-bit). Maybe I'm using a
mirror which is not up to date? I will check that this evening.
Is there a way to browse the repositories like it can be done at debian.org?

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