Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 for not changing the defaults at this time. I feel this could start a multitude of little holy wars (editor, mta, etc.) which we don't need right now that the first goal - "Debian, but without systemd" - is within grasp. Expert users can adapt from the Debian defaults to do what they need. I'd find it more valuable to have commonality with Debian here that sysadmins can automate customisation on both with the least amount of difference. Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVppVpAAoJEIeCTMxZltMWMQkP/3BG4cxjjIF5e4mN11xajGrx 6QUXq/WuBxPKw7N0IdxoruXVQfbyL/906xqJK2ipnUDW264c/0YzkuKhxYuGiXPv LVOuz5WmKTfJvoJBO4DMxDregbzIAzPbje6ZOSV8GVntXEFCQPII1PL+8904dpJq P/gwXprNtC63ZaPW/dQ1rC3lP+dYTlmrDGaRxsYd00vCl+ob8VlM8Wg9geYSGpNJ fRYvHS7NKnS9SMC9JGbLkj8ZN07fK25Aq5iiYdvVW9pka24YaxWnSB42FDRJuzB4 O5YqFLuDbQtqTWveK7BdGCSQWQWOxH94RW1Zi5+snjlDPE7bE+JTKlFfMuhYFRMa WfRRX2poX2JdkYLrVGyImZPOEpoy8hjPIgijfShd/TVt0jQ+36TGCJWi/hYGOMy7 eoodrt0Q576oAmrF1nuQ5cGHLN/nYQiCBZl1So1vg5WhtxiRWl6QgdDS6lm+Z/0N QVCRE4RTCYM+pvpISUlsAg5FcVRV2fmQlEkUvGGaEX3/WKOu94oPhn16i+yTMya9 rXp7GIIYbhWcGFjZsxK9rNKIBRJgqWrZ9UHwQJq1o1qA4hwvFLreby6EPAf6cYF8 nMsDTOhmWQc+h6zJYxHt98RvXH6Cta2/y6/0dAL/ch6Cyc3E9P7oeSVAGm4rX3IL 9vcmqr26j3jJvPVRHllT =A70z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it
dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote on 16/07/15 03:39: > Re: [DNG] I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it Happy to say that after I voted it was 633 users "for" and 634 "against" (not planning to use it). Due to the construction of the poll, the "plan to avoid" figure includes those of us who will be forced to use it anyway due to work requirements etc. I feel the poll would be better if it had a more explicit option "I am not using systemd and do not want to, but am forced to use it at work". This would give a clearer indication of the "coercion factor". Michael ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Will there be a MirDevuan "WTF"?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/07/15 07:49, James Powell wrote: > Devuan's main purpose is getting rid of systemd as a hard dependency and > allowing user choice in init software Well said, thank you, I very much agree with your entire post and would prefer if there was less noise about unrelated topics. A quick search suggests that it local D-Bus communication is unencrypted, but it can be set up to communicate with applications on remote hosts using SSH connections. I am sure if someone wants to expend the energy to get rid of D-Bus related software in Devuan, they can set up their own spin of it. Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVsIwJAAoJEIeCTMxZltMWHBwP+wfnAIiX39GexrOz7MiddT8J ClpFfDc7BBmfAR5WjOLeeg37DojVep4CS2plkgwQWUl5hTfD+X9C/Z4GboyCt/Iv qJearMdoiUVAJyi1Yw9EJnoHUaSg1r4iCzENp7qREWF09Y2iyJiYe0N+RMEidPnG 6uTKtpIvd1oS01xjJCglA708TiVaswfTH0Npo1lJbXcmfawivUgCfxu2olkV98mH hrx6ukOVzPMgyzm52cH91+/lEmHmxPQ6y0QZYPFDHIavSfV2RiL/OYa+6ZbEykKL wiMMF9dYMsM+cNnUovlTmjxFoyF3SHFI0LgD0Tw/rE4ycP5mwYCyrqfOQ9Uf4hfn rJedqvODzAsX3k/m+HKe9g38A58OFpsruB5yV8yZseQeQeO6x+RMfxSSeeGxDh3Y mPexZNht5K5JaJMpNYMg7aHayzFmP7/fDVDyltO4D0WMjz/JxyhOm8zqSyWUAxZz NFMDMu658fxhzQa5rClHzH0BthpKD0e555Kzp0Tqc4H9oUdKPw8erOXYcNCHHmP4 UA8RUdIki/zSp4ZBLPhjPDZgeIlYa7n//bAmhIFSFYU9huU4KUt7y6lfrl0J05c2 +4qP/x89Xy+FEG+9Y89Ws6WqJzgura3UiXtYEEpcWX75kp+XD9kWbzJTR1Hb/l74 igi68GlZDq7j7NKpejeP =GFXs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide
Article here: https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ I for one look forward to not having any of this madness one day when I transition completely to Devuan! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/2015 12:25 AM, Go Linux wrote: > Perhaps Devuan should consider dedicating the Beta to Ian? I think it would be fitting if Devuan dedicated their first official release to him. R.I.P. Ian, you have inspired us all through your work and life. :-( -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWhOEXAAoJEIeCTMxZltMWRZoQAIl6+QKgUEmkRB4w0FsoYFsT ZP3geUlGtsprvYwKE+T/zmWCrpf7gsguP+KnSq9gEGw7WkhAtZlDw6THeI4fxPUl OdG5bfL1FwubTdLdIgVh94KO0uSdo746PDut1rQxWp3b6hgknGDP06akM4xrUtl+ OchHRgewsCk0XzZFhOtU+0EO/R6QxWNfxx0RgfSG9qcLam9O604H+KOUH3Pr0pVz C4/HDeapLjjSkJXUFkkaMa2CMm4Whf5e6nFFiVeA31sLiICb2cKCASJ11qDlr7z2 BzYSNR4tfWe2P00KxfBFyL1S9Glv7UQ/ZgvXIGqZDezBM3wOgHvuwed/UAhNFXLd hgZHwWpKi+TU9LPHbOajbUkyHF81IHO3msn6Ueu0KjeGvnQ+GwknPMHaoUTy2lGr XolApZCEGDWBpn+XAl2Dc2YrovD8Lq2QKUnqm4KO85RC+QT9Ng54IEeyGUi2DIlI DwdQxSeHS7wq53SF7J6IkVxaW9rHGZZP0rHCNvynsSqgQQmC4APuO1TisE+p2oq4 DsV8Dn9afVAPyTpcoqh++5958jd3Tb4EA+LqvGFGGIQOVbwTMaPch2/vgEYSRjP6 fOs3qeG8CcgW3/bEPK+wBNZwVhEcfay+sKoznD28nOmxHBSJO/j4USfDzFp1hMyB 0Zm6bt8XxVgSQ57oWqSg =l+ot -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng