Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-15 Thread Michael Bütow

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+1 for not changing the defaults at this time.

I feel this could start a multitude of little holy wars (editor, mta,
etc.) which we don't need right now that the first goal - "Debian, but
without systemd" - is within grasp.

Expert users can adapt from the Debian defaults to do what they need.
I'd find it more valuable to have commonality with Debian here that
sysadmins can automate customisation on both with the least amount of
difference.

Michael
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Re: [DNG] I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it

2015-07-15 Thread Michael Bütow
dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote on 16/07/15 03:39:
> Re: [DNG] I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it
Happy to say that after I voted it was 633 users "for" and 634 "against"
(not planning to use it).

Due to the construction of the poll, the "plan to avoid" figure includes
those of us who will be forced to use it anyway due to work requirements
etc.
I feel the poll would be better if it had a more explicit option "I am
not using systemd and do not want to, but am forced to use it at work".
This would give a clearer indication of the "coercion factor".

Michael

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Re: [DNG] Will there be a MirDevuan "WTF"?

2015-07-22 Thread Michael Bütow

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On 23/07/15 07:49, James Powell wrote:

> Devuan's main purpose is getting rid of systemd as a hard dependency and 
> allowing user choice in
init software

Well said, thank you, I very much agree with your entire post and would
prefer if there was less noise about unrelated topics.

A quick search suggests that it local D-Bus communication is
unencrypted, but it can be set up to communicate with applications on
remote hosts using SSH connections.
I am sure if someone wants to expend the energy to get rid of D-Bus
related software in Devuan, they can set up their own spin of it.

Michael
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[DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-28 Thread Michael Bütow
Article here:

https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/

I for one look forward to not having any of this madness one day when I
transition completely to Devuan!

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Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock

2015-12-31 Thread Michael Bütow

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On 12/31/2015 12:25 AM, Go Linux  wrote:

> Perhaps Devuan should consider dedicating the Beta to Ian?

I think it would be fitting if Devuan dedicated their first official
release to him.
R.I.P. Ian, you have inspired us all through your work and life.

:-(


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