Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-07 Thread Stefan Ott
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On 03/07/2015 06:49 PM, Jaromil wrote:
 
 yep. And I for one will be doing everything possible to have
 third-party packaging systems like gem, pip, composer and others
 supported and preferred in Devuan. This is something that Debian
 has been fighting all the time and for the worst IMHO. Language
 specific package managers are closer to upstream and keep more up
 to date the software offered.

I much prefer the Debian way, i.e. having stable, known-good versions
of all those Python modules rather than manually following upstream.
As an admin I find it rather tiresome to keep track of dozens of
installed third-party packages and their vulnerabilities and
compatibility.

That said, as long as you don't actively try to get rid of these
packages I don't see an issue with better integration of pip  friends.

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Re: [Dng] pre alpha valentine (secret love declaration)

2015-02-17 Thread Stefan Ott
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On 02/15/2015 08:50 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 Doesn't Enlightenment have a display manager, and isn't systemd
 optional for Enlightenment? -Jonathan

I've been using slim for logging in (on Gentoo / FreeBSD ever since
my escape from Debian) and it doesn't need systemd. Is there a
particular reason why lightdm would be preferred or is it just about
personal preferences?

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