Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code
Dude, you are part of the problem if you don't understand what cancel culture is, which apparently you do not. On 4/1/21 7:39 AM, Steve Litt wrote: Didier Kryn said on Wed, 31 Mar 2021 12:07:50 +0200 cancel-culture Please don't use that phrase, unless you're the second coming of Rush Limbaugh. It's an ugly, Foxnews/right wing radio epithet for the time-honored practice of boycotting, perhaps the last tool of power for the average citizen. It's a trope. The preceding paragraph says nothing about my opinion on Stallman or the issues discussed in this thread. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code
I also believe what you just said to be very true, the cancer is in irreversible control. Perhaps this human trait is why typically civilizations and countries only last a few hundred or couple of thousand years then disappear. On 3/31/21 12:41 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: In case you haven't noticed . . . we've already lost that battle. Those of us who oppose the trajectory may huddle in small ponds like Devuan but the masses will follow whatever paradigm our corporate masters/politicians are selling and eventually our "cause" will be lost in time. Humans may be able to manipulate the external world but have no understanding of the internal forces that drive them to, more often than not, make choices that bring nothing but suffering and destruction to themselves and others of our species. golinux On 2021-03-31 11:57, Tony Thedford wrote: I think it goes much deeper than that. In these days and times, those who control the world's software controls the world. It is literally a "good" vs "evil" event. The way we choose to view it will decide our future. On 3/31/21 11:41 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 31/03/2021 à 18:12, Tony Thedford a écrit : I am wondering, what good are developers to the Linux community if they are moving their projects more and more into the "evil" column? What is needed are "good" developers and a total rejection of the globalist cancel cultures. Project advancement at any cost is a destructive goal. One side may be accused of sacrificing to cancel culture and the other to the cult of personality (~: -- Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code
I think it goes much deeper than that. In these days and times, those who control the world's software controls the world. It is literally a "good" vs "evil" event. The way we choose to view it will decide our future. On 3/31/21 11:41 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 31/03/2021 à 18:12, Tony Thedford a écrit : I am wondering, what good are developers to the Linux community if they are moving their projects more and more into the "evil" column? What is needed are "good" developers and a total rejection of the globalist cancel cultures. Project advancement at any cost is a destructive goal. One side may be accused of sacrificing to cancel culture and the other to the cult of personality (~: -- Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code
On 3/31/21 10:53 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code >Which is very sad is that developpers or potential developpers seem to condition their future contribution to the decision - and they are on both sides. Wether customers of Free Software abandon it, who cares? What is needed is developpers. -- Didier I am wondering, what good are developers to the Linux community if they are moving their projects more and more into the "evil" column? What is needed are "good" developers and a total rejection of the globalist cancel cultures. Project advancement at any cost is a destructive goal. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Package Repository Issue
Well... Uhmmm.. it seems that somehow ( between beer mug refills :-) ) I had managed to uninstall the devuan-keyring package. Needless to say errors were to be expected. devuan-keyring package is re-installed now, all is working normally again. Sorry for the bother, thanks for the replies. On 3/27/21 8:36 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 22:44:01 + From: g4sra To:"dng@lists.dyne.org" Subject: Re: [DNG] Package Repository Issue Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 27, 2021 10:37 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:06 PM, aitor wrote: Hi Tony, On 27/3/21 19:24, Tony Thedford wrote: Hello, Seems to be an issue on the package mirrors regarding i686 packages today. I get the following errors about a missing public key. Note that amd64 packages are working ok, do not have such errors. W: GPG error:http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C E: The repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease' is not signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. Check the date\time on your i386 host... s/i386/i686/ It's been a long day, it's late, the clocks go back tonight, I am going to bed..like I should have before I wrote that. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:<https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/attachments/20210327/126459bf/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: publickey -g4...@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 1852 bytes Desc: not available URL:<https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/attachments/20210327/126459bf/attachment.key> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 509 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL:<https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/attachments/20210327/126459bf/attachment.sig> ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Package Repository Issue
Hello, Seems to be an issue on the package mirrors regarding i686 packages today. I get the following errors about a missing public key. Note that amd64 packages are working ok, do not have such errors. W: GPG error: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C E: The repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease' is not signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. Anyone else getting these? -- With Best Regards, Tony Thedford _ / If at first you don't succeed... so \ \ much for skydiving. / - \ ^__^ \ (oo)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng