Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code

2021-04-01 Thread Tony Thedford
Dude, you are part of the problem if you don't understand what cancel 
culture is, which apparently you do not.



On 4/1/21 7:39 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

Didier Kryn said on Wed, 31 Mar 2021 12:07:50 +0200


   cancel-culture

Please don't use that phrase, unless you're the second coming of Rush
Limbaugh. It's an ugly, Foxnews/right wing radio epithet for the
time-honored practice of boycotting, perhaps the last tool of power for
the average citizen. It's a trope.

The preceding paragraph says nothing about my opinion on Stallman or
the issues discussed in this thread.

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code

2021-03-31 Thread Tony Thedford
I also believe what you just said to be very true, the cancer is in 
irreversible control. Perhaps this human trait is why typically 
civilizations and countries only last a few hundred or couple of 
thousand years then disappear.



On 3/31/21 12:41 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
In case you haven't noticed . . . we've already lost that battle.  
Those of us who oppose the trajectory may huddle in small ponds like 
Devuan but the masses will follow whatever paradigm our corporate 
masters/politicians are selling and eventually our "cause" will be 
lost in time. Humans may be able to manipulate the external world but 
have no understanding of the internal forces that drive them to, more 
often than not, make choices that bring nothing but suffering and 
destruction to themselves and others of our species.


golinux

On 2021-03-31 11:57, Tony Thedford wrote:

I think it goes much deeper than that. In these days and times, those
who control the world's software controls the world. It is literally a
"good" vs "evil" event. The way we choose to view it will decide our
future.


On 3/31/21 11:41 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 31/03/2021 à 18:12, Tony Thedford a écrit :

I am wondering, what good are developers to the Linux community if
they are moving their projects more and more into the "evil" column?
What is needed are "good" developers and a total rejection of the
globalist cancel cultures. Project advancement at any cost is a
destructive goal.

 One side may be accused of sacrificing to cancel culture and the
other to the cult of personality (~:

--     Didier



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Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code

2021-03-31 Thread Tony Thedford
I think it goes much deeper than that. In these days and times, those 
who control the world's software controls the world. It is literally a 
"good" vs "evil" event. The way we choose to view it will decide our future.



On 3/31/21 11:41 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 31/03/2021 à 18:12, Tony Thedford a écrit :

I am wondering, what good are developers to the Linux community if
they are moving their projects more and more into the "evil" column?
What is needed are "good" developers and a total rejection of the
globalist cancel cultures. Project advancement at any cost is a
destructive goal.

     One side may be accused of sacrificing to cancel culture and the
other to the cult of personality (~:

--     Didier



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Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code

2021-03-31 Thread Tony Thedford

On 3/31/21 10:53 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code

>Which is very sad is that developpers or potential developpers seem


to condition their future contribution to the decision - and they are on
both sides. Wether customers of Free Software abandon it, who cares?
What is needed is developpers.

--     Didier


I am wondering, what good are developers to the Linux community if they are moving their projects 
more and more into the "evil" column? What is needed are "good" developers and 
a total rejection of the globalist cancel cultures. Project advancement at any cost is a 
destructive goal.


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Re: [DNG] Package Repository Issue

2021-03-27 Thread Tony Thedford
Well... Uhmmm.. it seems that somehow ( between beer mug refills :-) ) I 
had managed to uninstall the devuan-keyring package. Needless to say 
errors were to be expected. devuan-keyring package is re-installed now, 
all is working normally again. Sorry for the bother, thanks for the replies.



On 3/27/21 8:36 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 22:44:01 +
From: g4sra
To:"dng@lists.dyne.org"  
Subject: Re: [DNG] Package Repository Issue
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On Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:06 PM, aitor  wrote:


Hi Tony,

On 27/3/21 19:24, Tony Thedford wrote:


Hello,

Seems to be an issue on the package mirrors regarding i686 packages today. I 
get the following errors about a missing public key. Note that amd64 packages 
are working ok, do not have such errors.

W: GPG error:http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged  beowulf-security InRelease: 
The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not 
available: NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C
E: The repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged  beowulf-security 
InRelease' is not signed.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore 
disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration 
details.

Check the date\time on your i386 host...

s/i386/i686/
It's been a long day, it's late, the clocks go back tonight, I am going to 
bed..like I should have before I wrote that.
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[DNG] Package Repository Issue

2021-03-27 Thread Tony Thedford

Hello,

Seems to be an issue on the package mirrors regarding i686 packages 
today. I get the following errors about a missing public key. Note that 
amd64 packages are working ok, do not have such errors.


W: GPG error: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security 
InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the 
public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C
E: The repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security 
InRelease' is not signed.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is 
therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user 
configuration details.


Anyone else getting these?


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