Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:


Following common understanding with other caretakers and parallel to
the work on the conference documentation, I have started this website,
soon to be linked by Devuan's official domain, served under TLS and
completed with a list of willing partners as datacenterlight, your
company and whoever will like: https://devuan.pro


What does devuan.pro have to do with the idea of good software? ...

I'd suggest to not make devuan.pro part of devuan.org:

I simply want decent software.

  I leave the idea of liberating the whole world, dancing, singing,
  freeing myself from "mental slavery" (I swear the latter is my
  personal favorite!) to those having the time to do that. And I wish
  them all good luck, and lots of fun. I mean it.

  In the meantime - without joining your respectable efforts - I try
  to become a better man, stop caring about things I know are useless
  to care about, keep my house tidy, and thus - maybe - become a
  better person. And in between all that I try using decent software
  - that won't be easy: to succeed in it I thought devuan is a good
  start. But the idea of getting rid of my mental slavery does not
  help me in all these efforts.

Does that make sense to anyone on this list?

Best Regards,
Wolfgang

PS: Great Tacitus quote at the end of devuan.pro: Thanks for
mentioning it.

--
"When I see a giant crane passing on a flatbed truck, I pause in awe
and reverence, as one would for a church procession. [ ... ] If
civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living
in grass huts."

Camille Paglia:
"Sexual Personae" p.38
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Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:27:08PM +0200, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:


[ ... ] That prank was completely misplaced: as someone replied,
one does not joke with security. The latter can mean lost business.


  Only if people are too stupid to understand the idea behind what is
called a backup of computer systems. Or because they're too negilent
to create them. Again: Backup.



Why is it so hard to understand this?


  See above. And because it was a joke.

Regards,
 Wolfgang

--
"When I see a giant crane passing on a flatbed truck, I pause in awe
and reverence, as one would for a church procession. [ ... ] If
civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living
in grass huts."

Camille Paglia:
"Sexual Personae" p.38
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Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:46:13PM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote:

On 4/11/19 1:27 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

It was at least a perfect example that "politic correctness" takes out the fun 
of everything. Sorry that KatolaZ decided to leave, but quite understandable.


this was no political correctness example to me. corporate/other
correctness maybe.
all we read, was some troll bullying on a member, with the community
watching/ feeding it.
so, politically correct would be to stand by the "victim". (very few
did


I was one of those, lurking here since quite a few few months, and
saying nothing when reading about that April fool's joke:

  It was crystal-clear, that there wasn't any danger at any point to
the integrety of the devuan infrastructure re. this joke: KatolaZ has
his public key published on this very list since quite some time: and
with exactly this key he signed the message telling us that it was a
joke. Obviously there are people out there who do not understand the
idea behind signing emails, people who - if they really meant what
they were writing here - never should come closer than a few feet to
any computer, anywhere.

 In retrospect it may have been a mistake to not tell the previous
 much earlier: but as grandmas used to say: if you cannot say it
 nicely don't say anything at all. In that very case I should have
 been ignoring grandma.


, while most just pointed fingers).

it's a sad day, when bullies "win".


  True, but in that case: one lets them win. And they win it's because
we allow them to do so. And only then they will win 

  KatolaZ: I understand you're fed up with the crap: but you let
losers win.

Sorry for intervening only now.

Best Regards,
 Wolfgang

--
"When I see a giant crane passing on a flatbed truck, I pause in awe
and reverence, as one would for a church procession. [ ... ] If
civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living
in grass huts."

Camille Paglia:
"Sexual Personae" p.38
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