Re: [DNG] Way forward
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: Following common understanding with other caretakers and parallel to the work on the conference documentation, I have started this website, soon to be linked by Devuan's official domain, served under TLS and completed with a list of willing partners as datacenterlight, your company and whoever will like: https://devuan.pro What does devuan.pro have to do with the idea of good software? ... I'd suggest to not make devuan.pro part of devuan.org: I simply want decent software. I leave the idea of liberating the whole world, dancing, singing, freeing myself from "mental slavery" (I swear the latter is my personal favorite!) to those having the time to do that. And I wish them all good luck, and lots of fun. I mean it. In the meantime - without joining your respectable efforts - I try to become a better man, stop caring about things I know are useless to care about, keep my house tidy, and thus - maybe - become a better person. And in between all that I try using decent software - that won't be easy: to succeed in it I thought devuan is a good start. But the idea of getting rid of my mental slavery does not help me in all these efforts. Does that make sense to anyone on this list? Best Regards, Wolfgang PS: Great Tacitus quote at the end of devuan.pro: Thanks for mentioning it. -- "When I see a giant crane passing on a flatbed truck, I pause in awe and reverence, as one would for a church procession. [ ... ] If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts." Camille Paglia: "Sexual Personae" p.38 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Way forward
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:27:08PM +0200, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: [ ... ] That prank was completely misplaced: as someone replied, one does not joke with security. The latter can mean lost business. Only if people are too stupid to understand the idea behind what is called a backup of computer systems. Or because they're too negilent to create them. Again: Backup. Why is it so hard to understand this? See above. And because it was a joke. Regards, Wolfgang -- "When I see a giant crane passing on a flatbed truck, I pause in awe and reverence, as one would for a church procession. [ ... ] If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts." Camille Paglia: "Sexual Personae" p.38 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Way forward
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:46:13PM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote: On 4/11/19 1:27 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: It was at least a perfect example that "politic correctness" takes out the fun of everything. Sorry that KatolaZ decided to leave, but quite understandable. this was no political correctness example to me. corporate/other correctness maybe. all we read, was some troll bullying on a member, with the community watching/ feeding it. so, politically correct would be to stand by the "victim". (very few did I was one of those, lurking here since quite a few few months, and saying nothing when reading about that April fool's joke: It was crystal-clear, that there wasn't any danger at any point to the integrety of the devuan infrastructure re. this joke: KatolaZ has his public key published on this very list since quite some time: and with exactly this key he signed the message telling us that it was a joke. Obviously there are people out there who do not understand the idea behind signing emails, people who - if they really meant what they were writing here - never should come closer than a few feet to any computer, anywhere. In retrospect it may have been a mistake to not tell the previous much earlier: but as grandmas used to say: if you cannot say it nicely don't say anything at all. In that very case I should have been ignoring grandma. , while most just pointed fingers). it's a sad day, when bullies "win". True, but in that case: one lets them win. And they win it's because we allow them to do so. And only then they will win KatolaZ: I understand you're fed up with the crap: but you let losers win. Sorry for intervening only now. Best Regards, Wolfgang -- "When I see a giant crane passing on a flatbed truck, I pause in awe and reverence, as one would for a church procession. [ ... ] If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts." Camille Paglia: "Sexual Personae" p.38 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng