Re: [DNG] Init respawns - was: Be prepared for the fall of systemd
maintain it if I had to. The various NetworkManager alternatives that have sprung up at Devuan. Could you point to or list those alternatives, please? I used Devuan occasionally since Beowulf release but now am going to say goodbye to Debian. Sometimes I need alternatives even for ifupdown. Here's my recent bicycle, btw, that might explain my needs: https://declassed.art/en/blog/2022/07/22/ethwifi-throw-away-networking-tools-and-keep-simple-things-simple And, I hope you excuse a newbie for a bit more: I had to use services of a corporation of the good to post this message. I'm a bit passionate about self-hosted software and email is not an exclusion. Never had problems for last year with it but mailing lists spotted the problem: Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname Yes, I'm aware of ptr records, but... setting up email is still complicated as it was 20 years ago. I see no progress over these years. Ideally I'd like to run an email server on my smartphone (and a backup relay on another one). If anyone could do that easily that would make email truly decentralized but there are still obstacles on the way to freedom. It's funny, working for a company in a "country of freedom" I had to ask permission to commit bugfixes to free software we used (finally, those commits did not happen). Now I'm totally liberated but I'm stuck in a devil country and have to use dnat'ed channels over vpn to my actual servers. So I don't want to touch ptr records. How it comes I had no problems with sending regular emails so far? Yes, I'm curious too. You know what? The corporation of the good, where most of my few recipients are, _does not check ptr records_! Wow! After discovering that I immediately commented out these lines in my smtpd.conf: #filter "rdns" phase connect match !rdns disconnect "550 DNS error" #filter "fcrdns" phase connect match !fcrdns disconnect "550 DNS error" If _they_ are not restrictive why am I still on the devil side so far? Did I get tons of spam? No. Anyway I don't delete spam for future analysis if I ever want to write my own mail server. And, dkim checker still works well. Well, I just wrote a draft for my next blog post, sorry. Anyway, I don't appeal to anything, this is just feedback. Who knows what your fairly elected presidents do with the internet tomorrow? Just an allusion, a similar thing happened to Debian. Axy ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] meta: list
I do have an unconfigured PTR for a couple of reasons, one of those is lack of static IP for now. But I never had problems with gmail. Instead, I have problems with this list which rejects my messages sent from my own MTA because they cannot find a hostname for my IP. So I have to post from my gmail account. Although I'm an addict of true decentralization, fans of rdns/fcrdns and spf as well make me think that independent email is dead. And, just for the record, I have checked this my gmail account, and the inbox contains no less messages than I get to my own a...@declassed.art Axy ср, 31 авг. 2022 г. в 08:16, marc : > Hi > > Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems > have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs > a notch or two. > > IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message > such as > > Our system has detected that this message is likely > unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent > to Gmail, this message has been blocked. Please visit > https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError > for more information. > > In this case this is for an IP+DNS combination that is known > to never have sent spam. And of course the supreme irony of > the matter is that google itself stands accused of injecting > spam into people's email - see noyb.eu > > The first reaction is to be a bit bleak about this, but > giving it some thought, there might be a silver lining to > this: This might be a significant step in the split into > "internet classic" the familiar favourite versus > the "hinternet.google", the free, convenient, but > also watered-down and shrinkflated version. > > Amusingly I think the DNG list here might have gotten > a headstart on this, with its unconfigured reverse > DNS entry - looking through the recent mails I see > next to no participants from gmail.com - presumably > because they haven't seen mail from here. > > So I think the only sensible reaction is to get word out > that to participate in this list it is now even more > important find a decent nongmail provider, or even > better - set up your own MX/MTA. > > I know that this can be a bit of a PITA, but if > you maximise for convenience rather than knowledge/privacy, > shouldn't you be using MacOS/Android instead than Devuan ? > > regards > > marc > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
