[DNG] displaying a window while key combo is being held
Is there a tool in Openbox or X that I can use to display a window while a combination of one or more keys on the keyboard are being held down and then hide it again when the keys are released? Kind of like the window switching dialog. /fuumind ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter
Thanks! It seems I will have to look at going down that route after all.
/fuumind
ons 2016-06-01 klockan 19:39 -1000 skrev Joel Roth:
> fuumind wrote:
> > I wish to convert several thousands of audio files mostly in mp3 format
> > to AAC using the Soundconverter application. So far I have installed the
> > application and the packages gstreamer$VERSION-plugins-$CODECCOLLECTION
> > where VERSION=('0.10' '1.0') and CODECCOLLECTION=('base' 'good' 'bad'
> > 'ugly') - doing the usual guesswork and then trying to find info
> > online :) - but AAC does not present itself as an available target
> > encoding.
> >
> > What package do I need to install in order to make AAC available? Should
> > I perhaps be using some other software instead of Soundconverter?
>
> Hi, not what you asked for, but ffmpeg can do this
> conversion on the command line. Plenty of examples
> provided.
>
> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/AAC
>
> HTH,
>
>
> > Thanks!
> > /fuumind
> >
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Re: [DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter
Thanks for the input! My target machine is an anchient feature phone that supports mp3 and AAC only. Its limited storage space combined with a speaker that does not make high bitrates justice tells me that AAC is the best choise of codec in this case. /fuumind tor 2016-06-02 klockan 08:19 +0200 skrev Adam Borowski: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 07:22:38AM +0200, fuumind wrote: > > I wish to convert several thousands of audio files mostly in mp3 format > > to AAC > > I don't get why one would want to convert _to_ AAC. It's a format both bad > and proprietary, thus hardly supported by free software at all. It wins > with mp3 only at very low bitrates and is actually _worse_ (although usually > within the error margin) than mp3 on high bitrates. > > If your target machine is anything non-ancient, you want opus, it thoroughly > beats both mp3 and aac at any bitrate. Even I, with untrained ears and > shitty gear, can ABX 320kbit mp3 on some samples. Never tried with aac but > it's said to be similar. On the other hand, pretty few people can ABX opus > at just 96k, so encoding at 128k is fine if you're paranoid about quality. > Yes, it is that much better. > > If your target _is_ ancient, you want mp3 for compatibility. You'd need to > encode at a crap quality to let aac be significantly better. > > > but AAC does not present itself as an available target > > It's patented out of the wazoo. > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Converting audio to AAC using Soundconverter
I wish to convert several thousands of audio files mostly in mp3 format
to AAC using the Soundconverter application. So far I have installed the
application and the packages gstreamer$VERSION-plugins-$CODECCOLLECTION
where VERSION=('0.10' '1.0') and CODECCOLLECTION=('base' 'good' 'bad'
'ugly') - doing the usual guesswork and then trying to find info
online :) - but AAC does not present itself as an available target
encoding.
What package do I need to install in order to make AAC available? Should
I perhaps be using some other software instead of Soundconverter?
Thanks!
/fuumind
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[DNG] using X to set hotkey for taking screen shot
Hi list! Inspired by recent discussions about setxkbmap and xmodmap I asked myself if it was possible to use X to assign a hotkey for taking a screenshot (or running any other command) instead of doing it as I do it now, in my openbox rc-file. It would be neat to become window manager independent! :) Some reasearch indicated that the above commands would not be of any use and I have so far been unable to find any other suggestions online. The time has come to ask you guys. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks! fuumind ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Pi hole
lol! :D
The shellshock incident wasn't a big incident for me. Prompt patching
can save your day many times over. Thank God bash is supported by the
community and not ${Corporations[$RANDOM]}!
/fuumind
lör 2016-05-21 klockan 16:43 +0200 skrev Adam Borowski:
> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:58:11PM +0200, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
> > I installed Pi Hole (https://pi-hole.net/) with the default install script
> > on a Pi 2 with Devuan Beta and it works fine. Due to the minimal base
> > install it is quite fast and I can recommend it's ads killing feature. I
> > have not the slightest idea about packaging but it would be certainly a
> > useful addition to the Devuan repo.
>
> Yay curl|bash. I'd say recommending such a command as their installation
> method means their view on security is so bad that no one should touch them
> with a $LENGTH pole.
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Re: [DNG] functionality missing in iceweasel?
You are probably right. It seems my apt was not correctly set up. The lines for jessie-security got commented out when I installed alpha because the installer could not contact the swedish mirror. After enabling it I now have Iceweasel 38.8.0 which at least lets me use the forum appropriately. /fuumind ons 2016-05-11 klockan 12:08 +0100 skrev KatolaZ: > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:54:20PM +0200, fuumind wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Apparently these pages expect some functionality that is present in > > Firefox 46.0 but is not in any of the other browsers. I do not know if > > it is the same functionality missing in both cases. Do any of you guys > > know what functionality this is and if there is a way to make it > > available in Iceweasel or Chromium on Devuan? > > > > Hope it's not some proprietary crap! > > > > /fuumind > > It might well be some missing HTML5 functionality. > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] functionality missing in iceweasel?
One of the forums I frequent does not allow me to update my profile using Iceweasel 38.7.1, which is the version in my devuan install. It just reloads my profile page with the unmodified data. In a virtual Lubuntu 16.04 having Firefox 46.0 updating the profile information works without a problem. Another page, ekoskane.se/lista, also does not work properly in my Devuan Iceweasel either but works in Lubuntu 16.04s Firefox 46.0. The page is supposed to present a list of local farming and other green initiatives available in the south of Sweden. Both these problems also occur in Chromium 49.0.2623.108 on my Devuan setup. If I rememeber correctly I had the same problem when I was on Lubuntu 14.04 as well, with both Firefox and Chromium. Apparently these pages expect some functionality that is present in Firefox 46.0 but is not in any of the other browsers. I do not know if it is the same functionality missing in both cases. Do any of you guys know what functionality this is and if there is a way to make it available in Iceweasel or Chromium on Devuan? Hope it's not some proprietary crap! /fuumind ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mounting an android phone as usb storage
lol! You never know! There are experiments being done on teleportation. ;) This is kind of interesting! 'jmtpfs mnt' told me 'No mtp devices found.' which led me to check out my phone a little more in detail. I found I could select which mode I wanted it to use and I had been using USB mode all the time. Choosing MTP mode and plugging into my laptop actually automounts it and pcmanfm asks me if I want to open it in a new window. This is true even when jmtpfs is not installed. In summation: Connecting my phone using USB mode does not auto mount it but connecting it to my laptop using MTP mode works even when jmtpfs is not installed. /fuumind On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:27:17 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 06:15:23PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 07:01:44PM +0200, fuumind wrote: > > > Did not help. Still no /dev/sdb which happens when I insert an ordinary > > > usb drive. > > > > > > /fuumind > > > > > > > You will not see any /dev/sdX anywhere. With my samsung phone I just > > plug it in and give the command: > > > > enzo@kaa:~$ jmtpfs mnt > > Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled. > > Device 0 (VID=04e8 and PID=6860) is a Samsung Galaxy models (MTP). > > enzo@kaa:~$ cd mnt > > enzo@kaa:~/mnt$ ls > > Phone > > enzo@kaa:~/mnt$ > > > > All your files are in the Phone/ directory. > > > > Well, I obviously meant "all *my* files are in the Phone/ > directory". jmtpfs is powerful, but not enough to automagically copy > *your* files into *my* phone, ATM :D > > HND > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] > [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] > [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mounting an android phone as usb storage
Did not help. Still no /dev/sdb which happens when I insert an ordinary usb drive. /fuumind On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:31:40 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 04:26:05PM +0200, fuumind wrote: > > I'm trying to connect my android phone to my devuan laptop as a USB storage > > device but it aint working. Connecting an ordinary USB storage device > > automounts and triggers a popup in pcmanfm. > > > > dmesg says it has detected the device and lsusb shows an entry as well but > > I can't seem to find a device in /dev. > > > > What should I be looking for? > > > > Just install jmtpfs. > > HND > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] > [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] > [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] mounting an android phone as usb storage
I'm trying to connect my android phone to my devuan laptop as a USB storage device but it aint working. Connecting an ordinary USB storage device automounts and triggers a popup in pcmanfm. dmesg says it has detected the device and lsusb shows an entry as well but I can't seem to find a device in /dev. What should I be looking for? /fuumind ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Well Done, Devuan!
Good looking and well built website! I think that the contents of the menu and the footer should be kept inside the center column. /fuumind On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:43:30 +0200 Svante Signell wrote: > On Fri, 2016-04-29 at 09:48 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > > > On 04/29/2016 09:16 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Well done to all involved in: > > > i) revamping Devuan's website making it pleasantly readable and > > > looking modern without the unnecessary bloat associated with modern > > > websites. WELL DONE to all involved. > > > ii) for publishing Devuan Beta Edition (although to me Devuan is > > > more > > > like rock solid rather than beta) > > > > > > Edward > > > > +10 > > > > Excellent !! > > > > Aitor. > > Congrats ! > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Tochpad scrolling on devuan
This is a gem! I don't know how many times I have accidentally brushed at the touchpad while typing and moved the cursor to somewhere it shouldn't be or deleted text. Maybe one could write a daemon that disables the touchpad n seconds after the any-key has been pressed... :) /fuumind On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:22:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:25:19 +0200 > aitor_czr wrote: > > > On 04/27/2016 11:21 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > > If so, try doing: > > > synclient TouchpadOff=1 > > > > > > for enabling the touchpad, and: > > > > > > synclient TouchpadOff=0 > > > > > > for disabling it. > > > > Sorry, it's in the other way around: > > > > synclient TouchpadOff=0 > > > > enables the touchpad :) > > And for even more fun, here's the "touchtoggle" shellscript I put on > every laptop, linked to hotkey Ctrl+Shift+j: > > = > #!/bin/sh > > curstate=`synclient | grep -i TouchpadOff | sed -e"s/.*= //"` > if test "$curstate" = "1"; then > synclient TouchpadOff=0 > else > synclient TouchpadOff=1 > fi > = > > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century > http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Tochpad scrolling on devuan
Hi all! Thank you for all the great help with getting my touchpad working better! I now have two finger scrolling working (I discovered in the process that my hardware do support it.) Adding the option line 'Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "on"' to the file /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf and unloading/reloading psmouse.ko did the trick. I am not sure wether the kernel upgrade made any difference and I am not very inclined to downgrade atm. :) All the best! fuumind On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:29:14 +0100 "dev1fanboy" wrote: > The synaptics driver is usually the way to go. Check if it's installed by > dpkg -l | grep synaptics, if not then apt-get install > xserver-xorg-input-synaptics. > > Usually any options you want will have to be configured as the defaults are > pretty basic, the archlinux wiki has some good info on the options: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics > > The default configuration is in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf > > Cheers, > > chillfan > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:46 PM, fuumind wrote: > > Thanks for the link! > > > > My kernel went from 3.16 to 4.4 but still no scrolling. > > > > also: > > > > lsmod|grep -iE "apple|cyapa|sermouse|synap|psmouse|vsxx|bcm" > > btbcm 16384 1 btusb > > bluetooth 516096 24 bnep,btbcm,btrtl,btusb,btintel > > psmouse 122880 0 > > > > And freeciv looks a lot nicer as well :) > > > > Maybe there are some configuration changes needing to be done for X after > > all. > > > > /fuumind > > > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 11:20:03 +0100 > > David Hare wrote: > > > >> deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > >> > >> in your sources.list.. Do be careful to comment that line immediately > >> after use, I'm not the only one who had problems with unintentional > >> "upgrades" from backports. > >> > >> Some of my posts might not have made the list properly, my usual mail > >> client is temporarily out of order. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 26 April 2016 at 08:12, fuumind wrote: > >> > I doubt that my hardware is too new. It is a Dell Latitude E6410 that > >> I bought second hand a couple of years ago. :) > >> > > >> > How would I go about upgrading to a backported kernel? Is there a repo > >> somewhere I can use or do I need to build it myself? > >> > > >> > /fuumind > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:27:39 -0400 > >> > Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:01:46AM +0100, David Hare wrote: > >> >> > On 26 April 2016 at 02:00, David Hare wrote: > >> >> > > I recently did a devuan-based install on a quite new Dell > >> laptop. > >> >> > > Many things did not work properly (sound, wlan, touchpad). A > >> newer > >> >> > > "backport" kernel sorted it all. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On 25 April 2016 at 20:19, fuumind > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> Hi! > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> I am trying to get touchpad scrolling working on my new Devuan > >> setup. So far I've figured out that it is probably pmouse that > >> is driving the hardware by stealing the following from > >> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131432/which-driver-is-handling-my-touchpad > >> : > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I've been using devuan since sometime last year on an old eeepc > >> >> netbook, maybe 5 years old. It just worked. Could it be that your > >> >> hardware is too new? I find its touchpad to be something of a > >> nuisance. > >> >> I touch it by accident and things go strange. I prefer to use my USB > >> >> wireless mouse. > >> >> > >> >> David Hare had success with a backported kernel. > >> >> > >> >> I've had problems like this a few times with new hardware. My ten > >> year > >> >> old server wouldn't do X when it was new. Regular updates, and it > >> >> worked fine after about six months. > >> >> > >> >> Mind you, as a server it was OK that it only did text terminals for a > >> >> while. > >> &
Re: [DNG] Tochpad scrolling on devuan
Thanks for the link! My kernel went from 3.16 to 4.4 but still no scrolling. also: lsmod|grep -iE "apple|cyapa|sermouse|synap|psmouse|vsxx|bcm" btbcm 16384 1 btusb bluetooth 516096 24 bnep,btbcm,btrtl,btusb,btintel psmouse 122880 0 And freeciv looks a lot nicer as well :) Maybe there are some configuration changes needing to be done for X after all. /fuumind On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 11:20:03 +0100 David Hare wrote: > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > > in your sources.list.. Do be careful to comment that line immediately > after use, I'm not the only one who had problems with unintentional > "upgrades" from backports. > > Some of my posts might not have made the list properly, my usual mail > client is temporarily out of order. > > > > On 26 April 2016 at 08:12, fuumind wrote: > > I doubt that my hardware is too new. It is a Dell Latitude E6410 that I > > bought second hand a couple of years ago. :) > > > > How would I go about upgrading to a backported kernel? Is there a repo > > somewhere I can use or do I need to build it myself? > > > > /fuumind > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:27:39 -0400 > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:01:46AM +0100, David Hare wrote: > >> > On 26 April 2016 at 02:00, David Hare wrote: > >> > > I recently did a devuan-based install on a quite new Dell laptop. > >> > > Many things did not work properly (sound, wlan, touchpad). A newer > >> > > "backport" kernel sorted it all. > >> > > > >> > > On 25 April 2016 at 20:19, fuumind wrote: > >> > >> Hi! > >> > >> > >> > >> I am trying to get touchpad scrolling working on my new Devuan setup. > >> > >> So far I've figured out that it is probably pmouse that is driving > >> > >> the hardware by stealing the following from > >> > >> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131432/which-driver-is-handling-my-touchpad > >> > >> : > >> > >> > >> I've been using devuan since sometime last year on an old eeepc > >> netbook, maybe 5 years old. It just worked. Could it be that your > >> hardware is too new? I find its touchpad to be something of a nuisance. > >> I touch it by accident and things go strange. I prefer to use my USB > >> wireless mouse. > >> > >> David Hare had success with a backported kernel. > >> > >> I've had problems like this a few times with new hardware. My ten year > >> old server wouldn't do X when it was new. Regular updates, and it > >> worked fine after about six months. > >> > >> Mind you, as a server it was OK that it only did text terminals for a > >> while. > >> > >> -- hendrik > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> lsmod|grep -iE "apple|cyapa|sermouse|synap|psmouse|vsxx|bcm" > >> > >> > >> > >> and getting > >> > >> > >> > >> psmouse99249 0 > >> > >> > >> > >> Apart from this all I seem to be able to find on the net is alot > >> > >> about setting up X for synaptics. > >> > >> > >> > >> As I am unsure how to proceed I would appreciate any guidance! > >> > >> > >> > >> /fuumind > >> > >> ___ > >> > >> Dng mailing list > >> > >> Dng@lists.dyne.org > >> > >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > >> > ___ > >> > Dng mailing list > >> > Dng@lists.dyne.org > >> > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > >> ___ > >> Dng mailing list > >> Dng@lists.dyne.org > >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > > > -- > > fuumind > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Tochpad scrolling on devuan
I doubt that my hardware is too new. It is a Dell Latitude E6410 that I bought second hand a couple of years ago. :) How would I go about upgrading to a backported kernel? Is there a repo somewhere I can use or do I need to build it myself? /fuumind On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:27:39 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:01:46AM +0100, David Hare wrote: > > On 26 April 2016 at 02:00, David Hare wrote: > > > I recently did a devuan-based install on a quite new Dell laptop. > > > Many things did not work properly (sound, wlan, touchpad). A newer > > > "backport" kernel sorted it all. > > > > > > On 25 April 2016 at 20:19, fuumind wrote: > > >> Hi! > > >> > > >> I am trying to get touchpad scrolling working on my new Devuan setup. So > > >> far I've figured out that it is probably pmouse that is driving the > > >> hardware by stealing the following from > > >> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131432/which-driver-is-handling-my-touchpad > > >> : > > > I've been using devuan since sometime last year on an old eeepc > netbook, maybe 5 years old. It just worked. Could it be that your > hardware is too new? I find its touchpad to be something of a nuisance. > I touch it by accident and things go strange. I prefer to use my USB > wireless mouse. > > David Hare had success with a backported kernel. > > I've had problems like this a few times with new hardware. My ten year > old server wouldn't do X when it was new. Regular updates, and it > worked fine after about six months. > > Mind you, as a server it was OK that it only did text terminals for a > while. > > -- hendrik > > > >> > > >> lsmod|grep -iE "apple|cyapa|sermouse|synap|psmouse|vsxx|bcm" > > >> > > >> and getting > > >> > > >> psmouse99249 0 > > >> > > >> Apart from this all I seem to be able to find on the net is alot about > > >> setting up X for synaptics. > > >> > > >> As I am unsure how to proceed I would appreciate any guidance! > > >> > > >> /fuumind > > >> ___ > > >> Dng mailing list > > >> Dng@lists.dyne.org > > >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- fuumind ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Tochpad scrolling on devuan
Hi! I am trying to get touchpad scrolling working on my new Devuan setup. So far I've figured out that it is probably pmouse that is driving the hardware by stealing the following from http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131432/which-driver-is-handling-my-touchpad : lsmod|grep -iE "apple|cyapa|sermouse|synap|psmouse|vsxx|bcm" and getting psmouse99249 0 Apart from this all I seem to be able to find on the net is alot about setting up X for synaptics. As I am unsure how to proceed I would appreciate any guidance! /fuumind ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
