Re: [DNG] OT: firefox, privacy etc.

[mad.scientist.at.large]

Sorry about that, I had managed to blow things up in ways i didn't see, usually 
i'm smart enough to consider that.  All replies are appreciate and will be 
read.  Thank you.



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Re: [DNG] OT: firefox, privacy etc.

[mad.scientist.at.large]

p.s. Sorry i forgot to change the "Re:"I have also used all those application 
you mention for security, The only workable, to block this spying is in the 
dedicated hardware firewall(s) i'll be deploying, very soon.
Note my main issue with this version of firefox is it's refusal to let you 
store passwords locally, and aggressive resistance to not using or using 
anything other than google's Cloud.  

I want local control, I shouldn't have to learn about firefox's/chrome's 
database contents, and i am already somewhat familiar with profiles.  I have 
created multiple profiles and restored them after playing with about:config, 
which was previously THE place for these configuration, which are now largely 
irrelavent to actual implementation.  Even the Sites I've don't have any 
information about most of those constants that no longer have meaning or many, 
many whole sections in about:config.  I understand how complicated browsers 
have always been, but firefox was previously well documented on mozilla.org 
etc., where as now nearly all the information they do supply ignores user's 
question and brings up pages of obsolete and long incorrect information while 
providing NO on these privacy issues and how to address them. 

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> terryc - 06.09.18, 05:46:
>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 03:34:27 +0200 (CEST)
>>
>> <>> mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com 
>> >> > wrote:
> […]
>> >  Can't find any configs in about:config to enable a 
>> > master passord or learning of new login data without "sync",
>> > "pocket", etc. 
>>
>> A web search suggests the relevant files are in
>> ~.mozilla/firefox/"profile" in keys* and sone sqllite files.
>
> Guys and gals, no need to fiddle with some obscure semi-hidden settings. 
> It all is openly in privacy settings page in any recent enough Firefox.
>
>> > or is it time to just shoot my
>> > gigabit ethernet because every one is a whore?  Yes, i specifically
>> > mean mozilla and google.
>>
>> I think they are widely spread on which ever 'internet' you
>> use. I use privacybadger to alert me to their fangs
>> (>> https://www.eff.org/privacybadger >> 
>> ).
>
> I used it as well.
>
> I read several times recommendations not to use Privacy Badger. Why? It 
> learns. And thus its very individual on every browser. Thus web pages 
> may track you by testing out what requests your browser blocks and 
> create an unique profile about the behavior of your ad blocking addon.
>
> Maybe that finger printing issue is overrated, I don´t know. But from 
> what I read ad and tracking people use any tricks they can.
>
> Thus I now use uBlock Origin. I think it is the only plugin needed for 
> that case. Its very efficient. Uses a configurable set of standard 
> filter lists and can be configured easily to just block *any* accesses 
> to third party domains by default, which I did. There is also uMatrix as 
> an alternative but its really way more complex and does not really come 
> with a set of default rules I think. But its way more powerful and 
> flexible as far as I read.
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Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12

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Thank you.  Please note that everything i've found with search engines points 
to mozila help pages which are now completely wrong.  In the "normal" firefox 
preferences there is a formerly working before update to V62.0 out today, to 
let you use a masterpassword for logon information storage, as well as a greyed 
out 'ask to save passwords and logins for websites" both under security and 
privacy. also on the "general" it won't even let you turn off it's testing of 
the operating systems prefered browser, always scanning your configuration 
files.
so now it's hidden in firefox's database files, that certainly obfuscation and 
openly removing privacy options.
Just to make clear, I'd like to, ideally, remove all chrome and other google 
code, which consistenly has huge bugs allowing one's system to be totally 
Owned.  I haven't used any "flash"fire extensions for a long time because, 
along with all other adobe product, they are consistently as insecure window.

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> terryc - 06.09.18, 05:46:
>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 03:34:27 +0200 (CEST)
>>
>> <>> mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com 
>> >> > wrote:
> […]
>> >  Can't find any configs in about:config to enable a 
>> > master passord or learning of new login data without "sync",
>> > "pocket", etc. 
>>
>> A web search suggests the relevant files are in
>> ~.mozilla/firefox/"profile" in keys* and sone sqllite files.
>
> Guys and gals, no need to fiddle with some obscure semi-hidden settings. 
> It all is openly in privacy settings page in any recent enough Firefox.
>
>> > or is it time to just shoot my
>> > gigabit ethernet because every one is a whore?  Yes, i specifically
>> > mean mozilla and google.
>>
>> I think they are widely spread on which ever 'internet' you
>> use. I use privacybadger to alert me to their fangs
>> (>> https://www.eff.org/privacybadger >> 
>> ).
>
> I used it as well.
>
> I read several times recommendations not to use Privacy Badger. Why? It 
> learns. And thus its very individual on every browser. Thus web pages 
> may track you by testing out what requests your browser blocks and 
> create an unique profile about the behavior of your ad blocking addon.
>
> Maybe that finger printing issue is overrated, I don´t know. But from 
> what I read ad and tracking people use any tricks they can.
>
> Thus I now use uBlock Origin. I think it is the only plugin needed for 
> that case. Its very efficient. Uses a configurable set of standard 
> filter lists and can be configured easily to just block *any* accesses 
> to third party domains by default, which I did. There is also uMatrix as 
> an alternative but its really way more complex and does not really come 
> with a set of default rules I think. But its way more powerful and 
> flexible as far as I read.
>
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Martin
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[DNG] OT: firefox, privacy etc.

[mad.scientist.at.large]

how an i possibly get local storage of login information to work again in 
firefox?  Can't find any configs in about:config to enable a master passord or 
learning of new login data without "sync",  "pocket", etc.  should i just 
switch to a browser with any respect for privacy and user preference, or is it 
time to just shoot my gigabit ethernet because every one is a whore?  Yes, i 
specifically mean mozilla and google.

"We kill when we close our eyes to poverty, affliction or infamy. We kill when, 
because it is easier, we countenance or pretend to approve of atrophied social, 
political, educational and religious institutions instead of resolutely 
combating them."
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