Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"

2021-09-21 Thread hal



On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote:

I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of
this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports
bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no
reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong?


The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth 5.2 
integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as well. You 
might be able to use either, or both.


It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB
bluetooth connection with a motherboard.


As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux kernel 
(of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those electronics.

Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I don't 
tend to use it myself.
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Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"

2021-09-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi hal, Haines,

hal writes:

> On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote:
>> I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of
>> this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports
>> bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no
>> reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong?
>
> The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth
> 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as
> well. You might be able to use either, or both.
>
>> It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB
>> bluetooth connection with a motherboard.
>
> As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux
> kernel (of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those
> electronics.
>
> Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I
> don't tend to use it myself.

No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get
rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"

2021-09-22 Thread Haines Brown
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:52:38PM -0500, hal wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote:
> > I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of
> > this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports
> > bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no
> > reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong?
> 
> The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with 
> Bluetooth 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired 
> LAN port as well. You might be able to use either, or both.

Thanks for the help.

In the past I looked on line to see whether folks had luck with a 
motherboard, but the Gigabyte Z-590 is too new. There are only hints
it might work but also a problem or two has shown up. 

As the result I've not acquired any exprtise matching 
kernels and chipsets. For example, how did you find out that the AORIS 
wifi chiop appearss to be Intel GE? It is not specified in Gigabyte 
specs. 

Then I'm unsure how to find if whether a spefic kernel has a module 
for a specific chipset. 

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Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"

2021-09-22 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 06:09:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi hal, Haines,
> 
> hal writes:
> 
> > On 9/21/21 16:34, Haines Brown wrote:
> >> I'm looking at a Gigabyte Z590 AORUS Elite motherboard. One version of
> >> this motherbard (designated Ax) is "wifi-enabled". It also supports
> >> bluetooth I suppose this means that the NIC is on the board. I have no
> >> reason to think this would be useful under Linux. Am I wrong?
> >
> > The Wi-Fi chip on that board appears to be an Intel 6E with Bluetooth
> > 5.2 integrated on the chipset. There appears to be a wired LAN port as
> > well. You might be able to use either, or both.
> >
> >> It also supports bluetooth, but I've no idea what is the use of a MB
> >> bluetooth connection with a motherboard.
> >
> > As with any other chipset on that board, I would check that the Linux
> > kernel (of your distro) includes support (kernel modules) for those
> > electronics.
> >
> > Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I
> > don't tend to use it myself.
> 
> No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get
> rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop.
> 
> Hope this helps,

Thanks, Olaf, it did. A problem ia that I'm wedded to the old Intel 
M-5 keyboards and geting them to use Bluetooth sounds like a challenge. 

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Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"

2021-09-22 Thread hal
On September 22, 2021 6:31:43 AM CDT, Haines Brown  wrote:



:: 
:: Thanks for the help.

sure!

:: 
:: In the past I looked on line to see whether folks had luck with a 
:: motherboard, but the Gigabyte Z-590 is too new. There are only hints
:: it might work but also a problem or two has shown up. 
:: 
:: As the result I've not acquired any exprtise matching 
:: kernels and chipsets. For example, how did you find out that the AORIS 
:: wifi chiop appearss to be Intel GE? It is not specified in Gigabyte 
:: specs. 

I just did a search on the motherboard and then scrolled around all the fluff 
on the websites to look for the specs on the actual electronics. I found some 
on this page here (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Intel-Z590)


:: 
:: Then I'm unsure how to find if whether a spefic kernel has a module 
:: for a specific chipset. 

generally, just a quick search using Linux, and the chipset, as a search term 
should turn up something. here is a phoronix article 
(https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.11-Networking) saying 
intel 6E support is in the 5.11 kernel. if you're distro has the 5.11 kernel, 
this all suggests the wifi chip should work. now, having support is one thing. 
stability is another. just because the support is there doesn't mean it will 
work flawlessly. sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't.  I usually look for 
forum postings to see what the real world stability is like. 

generally newer stuff has crappier support and stability. it's been getting 
much better in the past few years though it's hardware vendors have finally 
discovered that not everybody is running Windows.
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