Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
On 10/31/20 3:43 AM, spiralofhope wrote: On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: Sorry, spiralofhope. I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the list. I'll re-send this to the list then. :) On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:15:42 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: I think they have already obfuscated things. I used to use the Video Download Helper plugin for Firefox, but that stopped working for me. I know there were some issues with youtube-dl, and I switched to youtube-dlc because it included some unapproved pull requests. I checked, and I'm able to download your examine (sgN7fUGPgMM). If you want, I can provide it. I can also supply a 64bit binary or the repository I kept. Thanks for the prompt reply. That video was just a test, to get the error messages to post. I am now finding that Video Download Helper will sometimes complete a download and some of those actually work, but not all. For now, I am going to wait and see how this all plays out. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > Sorry, spiralofhope. I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the > list. I'll re-send this to the list then. :) On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:15:42 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: > I think they have already obfuscated things. > > I used to use the Video Download Helper plugin for Firefox, but that > stopped working for me. I know there were some issues with youtube-dl, and I switched to youtube-dlc because it included some unapproved pull requests. I checked, and I'm able to download your examine (sgN7fUGPgMM). If you want, I can provide it. I can also supply a 64bit binary or the repository I kept. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
Sorry, spiralofhope. I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the list. On 10/26/20 11:47 AM, spiralofhope wrote: TL;DR: YouTube-dl DMCA The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft) for an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio (although it does target other services). https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/ https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md I expect that YouTube will obfuscate the way it delivers content so as to make the existing youtube-dl release (and other similar software) nonfunctional (perhaps only for a time). I think they have already obfuscated things. I used to use the Video Download Helper plugin for Firefox, but that stopped working for me. Then I installed youtube-dl and tried to use it about a week ago, but received the following: [youtube] sgN7fUGPgMM: Downloading webpage [youtube] sgN7fUGPgMM: Downloading video info webpage ERROR: sgN7fUGPgMM: YouTube said: Invalid parameters. I tried downloading it from the yt-dl.org page, but that version gave me the save results. I use it to watch karate kata when I don't have internet connectivity, but it looks like that is no longer possible. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
With my apologies for the multiple messages.. but .. > this repo contains the text of DMCA takedown notices and > counter-notices we've received here at GitHub > ... > we believe that transparency on a specific and ongoing level is > essential to good governance > > -- https://github.com/github/dmca So.. https://github.com/github/dmca/tree/416da574ec0df3388f652e44f7fe71b1e3a4701f On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:36:08 -0700 spiralofhope wrote: > This made me laugh; using the tool to get the tool's source: > > > youtube-dl -o - https://youtu.be/hyqLv2_zBdA | ffmpeg -i - \ > -vf scale=120:-1,eq=contrast=10 -sws_flags neighbor -pix_fmt \ > monob -f rawvideo yt_dl.tar.gz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
This made me laugh; using the tool to get the tool's source: youtube-dl -o - https://youtu.be/hyqLv2_zBdA | ffmpeg -i - \ -vf scale=120:-1,eq=contrast=10 -sws_flags neighbor -pix_fmt \ monob -f rawvideo yt_dl.tar.gz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
Thanks for the alternative git repositories. I was already wondering yesterday what happend - well, "Die Gier is a Hund" or in almost english "Greed is a dog" :/ Nik Anno domini 2020 Mon, 26 Oct 11:47:25 -0700 spiralofhope scripsit: > TL;DR: YouTube-dl DMCA > > > > > > The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft) for > an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio (although it > does target other services). > > https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/ > https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md > > I expect that YouTube will obfuscate the way it delivers content so > as to make the existing youtube-dl release (and other similar software) > nonfunctional (perhaps only for a time). > > Curiously there was recently a bit of drama and then a fork (also > DMCA'd) over the problem of urgent youtube-dl pull requests being left > unreviewed. I have no proof for this instance, but I've always > maintained that controlled forks, or for a few thousand dollars the > right developers, could be made to drag their feet and damage FOSS > alternatives / etc; it might be cheaper than lawyers, FUD, lobbyists > etc. > > The developer(s) are alive and its website still has a download, but > they're a hair away from being targeted more directly. > > https://youtube-dl.org/ > > Sure there have been "protest forks" already, but that alone doesn't > mean anything unless efforts centre around one in particular. > > Where other people will be focused on the code, I'm concerned about the > documentation. All of the wikis, pull requests, inline code-comments, > issues and their conversation have been purged. > > (Not many people even think to clone a project's separate GitHub wiki > repository.) > > But back to YouTube itself. The inability to download videos will > have an impact in that "inconvenient" videos can't so easily be kept, > fair-use commentated-upon, and (re-)uploaded. Everyday people wouldn't > be able to signal boost or contribute to a Streisand effect, making > videos (and people) easier to memoryhole. > > > GitHub is obviously untrustworthy for mirrors/forks. These are likely > to stay up longer: > > https://source.netsyms.com/Mirrors/l1ving_youtube-dl > https://git.datahoarder.dev/whalehub/l1ving_youtube-dl > https://gitea.datahoarding.agency/ZenulAbidin/youtube-dl > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted
TL;DR: YouTube-dl DMCA The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft) for an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio (although it does target other services). https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/ https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md I expect that YouTube will obfuscate the way it delivers content so as to make the existing youtube-dl release (and other similar software) nonfunctional (perhaps only for a time). Curiously there was recently a bit of drama and then a fork (also DMCA'd) over the problem of urgent youtube-dl pull requests being left unreviewed. I have no proof for this instance, but I've always maintained that controlled forks, or for a few thousand dollars the right developers, could be made to drag their feet and damage FOSS alternatives / etc; it might be cheaper than lawyers, FUD, lobbyists etc. The developer(s) are alive and its website still has a download, but they're a hair away from being targeted more directly. https://youtube-dl.org/ Sure there have been "protest forks" already, but that alone doesn't mean anything unless efforts centre around one in particular. Where other people will be focused on the code, I'm concerned about the documentation. All of the wikis, pull requests, inline code-comments, issues and their conversation have been purged. (Not many people even think to clone a project's separate GitHub wiki repository.) But back to YouTube itself. The inability to download videos will have an impact in that "inconvenient" videos can't so easily be kept, fair-use commentated-upon, and (re-)uploaded. Everyday people wouldn't be able to signal boost or contribute to a Streisand effect, making videos (and people) easier to memoryhole. GitHub is obviously untrustworthy for mirrors/forks. These are likely to stay up longer: https://source.netsyms.com/Mirrors/l1ving_youtube-dl https://git.datahoarder.dev/whalehub/l1ving_youtube-dl https://gitea.datahoarding.agency/ZenulAbidin/youtube-dl ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
