Re: [DNG] Website changes
The contents on github are now slightly behind what we prepared for the website as the links point to the jessie torrent (I will fix that in the next push soon). Translations should be in good order aside from that. Cheers, chillfan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, December 24, 2018 6:35 PM, wrote: > On 2018-12-24 11:53, Gastón via Dng wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 01:04:54PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > > > Greetings! > > > Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of > > > recent > > > discussions on this list and the dev1galaxy forum. > > > > > > 1. One user commented that they had no idea which iso to choose. So > > > descriptions of the Devuan isos have been added to: > > > > > > > > > https://devuan.org/ (mid-page) > > > https://devuan.org/get-devuan (top of the page) > > > > Good job! :-) > > Thanks. > > > > 2. Others found the installation process challenging so thanks to > > > chillfan > > > "Visual guides" with screenshots for both a classic install and a > > > graphical > > > install can be found below the mirror list on the "get-devuan" page. > > > Instructions for disk encryption are linked to and back to the the > > > appropriate place in the tutorials: > > > > > > > > > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/install-devuan.html > > > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/full-disk-encryption.html > > > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-install.html > > > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-disk-encryption.html > > > > The versions of these pages using the translations, are or will be > > available as well? > > There are some translations on chillfan/dev1fanboy's wiki pages at: > https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan > but I'm not sure how current they are. Perhaps he can clarify. If they > are, we can certainly add links to them. Additional translations are > always most welcome. Thanks for the suggestion. > > golinux > > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng publickey - chillfan@protonmail.com - 0xB179B25B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Website changes
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 13:04:54 -0600 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Greetings! > > Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of > recent discussions on this list and the dev1galaxy forum. [snip the specifics] This demonstrates how good documentation in the right place can make software an order of magnitude more user friendly, without dumbing down the software. This is excellent. I have a suggestion for the ISO section mid-page on https://devuan.org/. I think it would be clearer, for the rushed reader, if you made section "ISO Guide" into an ,and moved that whole section up to the very top of current section "Get Devuan". If you don't like having a subservient section header directly below its parent section header, insert a sentence like "Before listing the download sources, a word about the different ISO images available and their uses.". I'm worried that, the way it is now, a rushed reader might click on a mirror and never see the ISO descriptions. I wish every software project were as serious about documentation as Devuan is. This addition is excellent. SteveT Steve Litt December 2018 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Website changes
On 2018-12-24 11:53, Gastón via Dng wrote: On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 01:04:54PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Greetings! Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of recent discussions on this list and the dev1galaxy forum. 1) One user commented that they had no idea which iso to choose. So descriptions of the Devuan isos have been added to: https://devuan.org/ (mid-page) https://devuan.org/get-devuan (top of the page) Good job! :-) Thanks. 2) Others found the installation process challenging so thanks to chillfan "Visual guides" with screenshots for both a classic install and a graphical install can be found below the mirror list on the "get-devuan" page. Instructions for disk encryption are linked to and back to the the appropriate place in the tutorials: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/install-devuan.html https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/full-disk-encryption.html https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-install.html https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-disk-encryption.html The versions of these pages using the translations, are or will be available as well? There are some translations on chillfan/dev1fanboy's wiki pages at: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan but I'm not sure how current they are. Perhaps he can clarify. If they are, we can certainly add links to them. Additional translations are always most welcome. Thanks for the suggestion. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Website changes
On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 01:04:54PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Greetings! > > Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of recent > discussions on this list and the dev1galaxy forum. > > 1) One user commented that they had no idea which iso to choose. So > descriptions of the Devuan isos have been added to: > > https://devuan.org/ (mid-page) > https://devuan.org/get-devuan (top of the page) Good job! :-) > 2) Others found the installation process challenging so thanks to chillfan > "Visual guides" with screenshots for both a classic install and a graphical > install can be found below the mirror list on the "get-devuan" page. > Instructions for disk encryption are linked to and back to the the > appropriate place in the tutorials: > > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/install-devuan.html > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/full-disk-encryption.html > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-install.html > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-disk-encryption.html > The versions of these pages using the translations, are or will be available as well? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Website changes
Good, provided an installer is obedient to do what is commanded. What happens when an installer obstinately insists on installing LVM, (ilLogical Volume Management), as it happened to me several times when I was still using Debian, and also when I started to use Devuan? I was left with no choice other than using debootstrap and chroot. In the event debootstrap fails, I am left with no other choice other than using a very dirty low level installation by extracting packages manually. This latter step is still a step in the dark when everything fails, as there is no list of packages of what debootstrap installs when it works. I suggest a package containing all packages that are usually installed by debootstrap and a script to configure them. I will not suggest the MS Windows way of suggesting a self extracting executable that itstalls and configures what debootstrap installs, although that would be a too-good-to-be-true. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Website changes
Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: > Greetings! > > Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of recent > discussions on this list and the dev1galaxy forum. > > 1) One user commented that they had no idea which iso to choose. So > descriptions of the Devuan isos have been added to: > > https://devuan.org/ (mid-page) > https://devuan.org/get-devuan (top of the page) > > 2) Others found the installation process challenging so thanks to > chillfan "Visual guides" with screenshots for both a classic install and > a graphical install can be found below the mirror list on the > "get-devuan" page. Instructions for disk encryption are linked to and > back to the the appropriate place in the tutorials: > > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/install-devuan.html > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/full-disk-encryption.html > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-install.html > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-disk-encryption.html > > Similar walk-throughs for refractainstaller will soon be added. > > So why do they they look different than the rest of the site? Well, an > version of these pages was prepared last spring for inclusion on the > ASCII isos that use the debian-installer and it was just easier to keep > them in that format. > > 3) Finally, an explanation of non-free and contrib will soon be added to > appropriate page(s). > > Cheers! :+10: ;-) -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Website changes
Greetings! Some changes are being made to the Devuan website as a result of recent discussions on this list and the dev1galaxy forum. 1) One user commented that they had no idea which iso to choose. So descriptions of the Devuan isos have been added to: https://devuan.org/ (mid-page) https://devuan.org/get-devuan (top of the page) 2) Others found the installation process challenging so thanks to chillfan "Visual guides" with screenshots for both a classic install and a graphical install can be found below the mirror list on the "get-devuan" page. Instructions for disk encryption are linked to and back to the the appropriate place in the tutorials: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/install-devuan.html https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/full-disk-encryption.html https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-install.html https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/graphic-disk-encryption.html Similar walk-throughs for refractainstaller will soon be added. So why do they they look different than the rest of the site? Well, an version of these pages was prepared last spring for inclusion on the ASCII isos that use the debian-installer and it was just easier to keep them in that format. 3) Finally, an explanation of non-free and contrib will soon be added to appropriate page(s). Cheers! golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
