Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-02-01 Thread Boian Bonev
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On Wed, 2022-01-26 at 03:30 +0200, Boian Bonev wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > a stupid question, could the templates be added to the base-files package
> > that is already forked?
> 
> It is not stupid at all - technically that is possible because there would be
> no filename conflict. But I do not think it is the proper way because that
> may
> create confusion and would be hard to track for anyone not knowing what was
> done. BTW I have no idea about the level of pureness desired, so I can't say.

It was decided to add a Devuan specific package - python-apt-common-devuan,
that is already in ceres but nothing depends on it. Soon the parts in tasksel
that recommend synaptic will also recommend python-apt-common-devuan, so it
would get installed automatically... Please test that - it does not depend on
anything, so it should be easy to install the ceres package anywhere.

Updates to the stable releases are pending after more thorough testing.

HTH

With best regards,
b.
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Boian Bonev
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> 
...

> > There are two options:
> > 
> > 1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian
> > 2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in
> > it
> > 
> > My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is
> > volatile
> > information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and
> > that
> > won't easily happen in Debian)
> 
> Hi,
> a stupid question, could the templates be added to the base-files package
> that is already forked?

It is not stupid at all - technically that is possible because there would be
no filename conflict. But I do not think it is the proper way because that may
create confusion and would be hard to track for anyone not knowing what was
done. BTW I have no idea about the level of pureness desired, so I can't say.

With best regards,
b.
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi,

tito via Dng  writes:

> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:02:45 +0200
> Boian Bonev  wrote:
>
>> ...
>> > > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete
>> > > > repositories in synaptic
>> > > > that doesn't work as some template is missing:
>> > > >
>> > > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
>> > > > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
>> > > >
>> > > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself
>> > > > or to software-properties-gtk package.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ciao,
>> > > > Tito
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Tito,
>> > > It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for
>> > > synaptic.  Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template,
>> > > and modified, but I probably got some things wrong).  These two files go
>> > > in /usr/share/python-apt/templates
>> > > Hope this helps somewhat.
>> > >
>> > > Temp
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were
>> > hidden.
>> > Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without
>> > exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan?
>>
>> The templates live in python-apt-common (this package is not forked in 
>> Devuan).
>>
>> There are two options:
>>
>> 1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian
>> 2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it
>>
>> My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is 
>> volatile
>> information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and 
>> that
>> won't easily happen in Debian)
>
> Hi,
> a stupid question, could the templates be added to the base-files package
> that is already forked?

Forking yet another package will add to the load but I don't think that
adding the templates to base-files is a good idea.  It hides their
origin and quite likely leads to not noticing upstream changes.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi,

tito via Dng  writes:

> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:27:52 +0100
> Didier Kryn  wrote:
>
>> Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit :
>> > Hi Tito,
>> >
>> > tito via Dng  writes:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> [... snip synaptic error message due to missing distribution
>> >>  template for Devuan/chimaera ...]
>> >
>> > BTW, I don't use synaptic myself.  Too much bloat.  The command-line
>> > suits my needs just fine.
>> >
>>      I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do
>> the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it
>> and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use
>> Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading.
>
> Hi,
>
> for me synaptic is useful to find software I don't now about,
> with simple queries I'm served a list of matches with summaries to choose 
> from.

I use `apt search` or `apt-cache search` for that.

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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:02:45 +0200
Boian Bonev  wrote:

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> 
> ...
> > > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete
> > > > repositories in synaptic 
> > > > that doesn't work as some template is missing:
> > > > 
> > > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
> > > > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> > > > 
> > > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself
> > > > or to software-properties-gtk package.
> > > > 
> > > > Ciao,
> > > > Tito
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Tito,
> > > It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for
> > > synaptic.  Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template,
> > > and modified, but I probably got some things wrong).  These two files go
> > > in /usr/share/python-apt/templates
> > > Hope this helps somewhat.
> > > 
> > > Temp
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were
> > hidden.
> > Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without
> > exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan?
> 
> The templates live in python-apt-common (this package is not forked in 
> Devuan).
> 
> There are two options:
> 
> 1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian
> 2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it
> 
> My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is 
> volatile
> information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and that
> won't easily happen in Debian)

Hi,
a stupid question, could the templates be added to the base-files package
that is already forked?

> Also I have noticed that this is not existing: http://security.devuan.org/ and
> MatchURI: is not proper in most cases (contents of Devuan.info)

Yes this needs to be fixed.

> I can help with packaging the forked python-apt-common but I can not help with
> testing because I do not use aptitude.

I can test it with synaptic if needed.

Ciao,
Tito

> With best regards,
> b.
> 
> 
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Boian Bonev
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...
> > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete
> > > repositories in synaptic 
> > > that doesn't work as some template is missing:
> > > 
> > > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a
> > > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> > > 
> > > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself
> > > or to software-properties-gtk package.
> > > 
> > > Ciao,
> > > Tito
> > > 
> > > 
> > Tito,
> > It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for
> > synaptic.  Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template,
> > and modified, but I probably got some things wrong).  These two files go
> > in /usr/share/python-apt/templates
> > Hope this helps somewhat.
> > 
> > Temp
> 
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were
> hidden.
> Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without
> exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan?

The templates live in python-apt-common (this package is not forked in Devuan).

There are two options:

1) Submit a PR to the packager/team in Debian
2) Fork the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it

My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is volatile
information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and that
won't easily happen in Debian)

Also I have noticed that this is not existing: http://security.devuan.org/ and
MatchURI: is not proper in most cases (contents of Devuan.info)

I can help with packaging the forked python-apt-common but I can not help with
testing because I do not use aptitude.

With best regards,
b.



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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:20:18 -0500
tempforever  wrote:

> tito via Dng wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900
> > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Tito,
> >>
> >> tito via Dng  writes:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package 
> >>> manager i get:
> >>>
> >>>  synaptic-pkexec
> >>> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
> >>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>   File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in 
> >>> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, 
> >>> options=options, file=file)
> >>>   File 
> >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
> >>>  line 109, in __init__
> >>> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
> >>>   File 
> >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> >>>  line 109, in __init__
> >>> self.reload_sourceslist()
> >>>   File 
> >>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py",
> >>>  line 599, in reload_sourceslist
> >>> self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
> >>>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in 
> >>> get_sources
> >>> raise NoDistroTemplateException(
> >>> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
> >>> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
> >> Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
> >> ...  I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
> >> to check that your APT sources are okay.  Probably
> >>
> >>   sudo apt update
> > Hi,
> > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete 
> > repositories in synaptic 
> > that doesn't work as some template is missing:
> >
> > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
> > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> >
> > I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself
> > or to software-properties-gtk package.
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Tito
> >
> >
> Tito,
> It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for
> synaptic.  Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template,
> and modified, but I probably got some things wrong).  These two files go
> in /usr/share/python-apt/templates
> Hope this helps somewhat.
> 
> Temp

Hi,

thanks for your effort, I was not able to find where this templates were hidden.
Seems to work here, software-properties-gtk dialog window opens without
exception. Could this somehow be added to debian or devuan?

Ciao,
Tito
 

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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:06:22 +0100
Michael Neuffer via Dng  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 1/25/22 10:27, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit :
> >> Hi Tito,
> >>
> >> tito via Dng  writes:
> [...]
> >> BTW, I don't use synaptic myself.  Too much bloat.  The command-line
> >> suits my needs just fine.
> >>
> >>
> >      I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do 
> > the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it 
> > and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use 
> > Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading.
> > 
> >      I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I 
> > haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with 
> > sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic".
> > 
> >      For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers 
> > configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in 
> > /etc/sudoers:
> > 
> > Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY"
> > 
> >      Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY  are needed in this case, the other 
> > variables serve other purposes.
> 
> Why don't you use the trusty old dselect?
> 
> Cheers
>Mike

But I want to use synaptic...  :-(

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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tempforever
tito via Dng wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900
> Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng  wrote:
>
>> Hi Tito,
>>
>> tito via Dng  writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package 
>>> manager i get:
>>>
>>>  synaptic-pkexec
>>> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in 
>>> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, 
>>> file=file)
>>>   File 
>>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
>>>  line 109, in __init__
>>> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
>>>   File 
>>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
>>> line 109, in __init__
>>> self.reload_sourceslist()
>>>   File 
>>> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
>>> line 599, in reload_sourceslist
>>> self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in 
>>> get_sources
>>> raise NoDistroTemplateException(
>>> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
>>> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
>>>
>>>
>>> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
>> Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
>> ...  I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
>> to check that your APT sources are okay.  Probably
>>
>>   sudo apt update
> Hi,
> apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete repositories 
> in synaptic 
> that doesn't work as some template is missing:
>
> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
>
> I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself
> or to software-properties-gtk package.
>
> Ciao,
> Tito
>
>
Tito,
It appears that there are no devuan-specific template files for
synaptic.  Attached is my first attempt (copied from Debian template,
and modified, but I probably got some things wrong).  These two files go
in /usr/share/python-apt/templates
Hope this helps somewhat.

Temp


Devuan.info
Description: application/info
http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/
#LOC:AM
#LOC:AR
#LOC:AT
#LOC:AU
#LOC:BE
#LOC:BG
#LOC:BR
#LOC:BY
#LOC:CA
#LOC:CH
#LOC:CL
#LOC:CN
#LOC:CR
#LOC:CZ
#LOC:DE
#LOC:DK
#LOC:EE
#LOC:ES
#LOC:FI
#LOC:FR
#LOC:GB
#LOC:GE
#LOC:GR
#LOC:HK
#LOC:HR
#LOC:HU
#LOC:ID
#LOC:IL
#LOC:IN
#LOC:IR
#LOC:IT
#LOC:JP
#LOC:KE
#LOC:KG
#LOC:KH
#LOC:KR
#LOC:KZ
#LOC:LT
#LOC:LU
#LOC:LV
#LOC:MD
#LOC:MK
#LOC:NC
#LOC:NL
#LOC:NO
#LOC:NZ
#LOC:PH
#LOC:PL
#LOC:PT
#LOC:RE
#LOC:RO
#LOC:RS
#LOC:RU
#LOC:SE
#LOC:SG
#LOC:SI
#LOC:SK
#LOC:SV
#LOC:TH
#LOC:TR
#LOC:TW
#LOC:UA
#LOC:US
#LOC:UY
#LOC:VN
#LOC:ZA
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Michael Neuffer via Dng



On 1/25/22 10:27, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit :

Hi Tito,

tito via Dng  writes:

[...]

BTW, I don't use synaptic myself.  Too much bloat.  The command-line
suits my needs just fine.


     I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do 
the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it 
and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use 
Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading.


     I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I 
haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with 
sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic".


     For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers 
configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in 
/etc/sudoers:


Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY"

     Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY  are needed in this case, the other 
variables serve other purposes.


Why don't you use the trusty old dselect?

Cheers
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:27:52 +0100
Didier Kryn  wrote:

> Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit :
> > Hi Tito,
> >
> > tito via Dng  writes:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package 
> >> manager i get:
> >>
> >>   synaptic-pkexec
> >> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in 
> >>  app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, 
> >> options=options, file=file)
> >>File 
> >> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
> >>  line 109, in __init__
> >>  SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
> >>File 
> >> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
> >> line 109, in __init__
> >>  self.reload_sourceslist()
> >>File 
> >> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
> >> line 599, in reload_sourceslist
> >>  self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
> >>File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in 
> >> get_sources
> >>  raise NoDistroTemplateException(
> >> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
> >> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> >>
> >>
> >> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
> > Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
> > ...  I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
> > to check that your APT sources are okay.  Probably
> >
> >sudo apt update
> >
> > will do that trick.  If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
> > didn't obviously break your APT setup.
> >
> > You might also want to post the output of
> >
> >sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
> >
> > so we can see what sources you're using.
> >
> > BTW, I don't use synaptic myself.  Too much bloat.  The command-line
> > suits my needs just fine.
> >
> >
>      I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do 
> the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it 
> and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use 
> Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading.

Hi,

for me synaptic is useful to find software I don't now about, 
with simple queries I'm served a list of matches with summaries to choose from.

Ciao,
Tito
 

>      I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I 
> haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with 
> sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic".
> 
>      For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers 
> configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in 
> /etc/sudoers:
> 
> Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY"
> 
>      Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY  are needed in this case, the other 
> variables serve other purposes.
> 
>      Hth.
> 
> --     Didier
> 
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng  wrote:

> Hi Tito,
> 
> tito via Dng  writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> > while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package 
> > manager i get:
> >
> >  synaptic-pkexec
> > ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in 
> > app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, 
> > file=file)
> >   File 
> > "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
> >  line 109, in __init__
> > SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
> >   File 
> > "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
> > line 109, in __init__
> > self.reload_sourceslist()
> >   File 
> > "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
> > line 599, in reload_sourceslist
> > self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in 
> > get_sources
> > raise NoDistroTemplateException(
> > aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
> > distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
> >
> >
> > Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?
> 
> Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
> ...  I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
> to check that your APT sources are okay.  Probably
> 
>   sudo apt update

Hi,
apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete repositories in 
synaptic 
that doesn't work as some template is missing:

aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
distribution template for Devuan/chimaera

I was wondering If we couldn't add this template to synaptic itself
or to software-properties-gtk package.

Ciao,
Tito

> 
> will do that trick.  If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
> didn't obviously break your APT setup.
> 
> You might also want to post the output of
> 
>   sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
> 
> so we can see what sources you're using.
> 
> BTW, I don't use synaptic myself.  Too much bloat.  The command-line
> suits my needs just fine.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> --
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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Didier Kryn

Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit :

Hi Tito,

tito via Dng  writes:


Hi,
while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package manager 
i get:

  synaptic-pkexec
ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in 
 app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, 
file=file)
   File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
 line 109, in __init__
 SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
   File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 
109, in __init__
 self.reload_sourceslist()
   File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 
599, in reload_sourceslist
 self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in 
get_sources
 raise NoDistroTemplateException(
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
distribution template for Devuan/chimaera


Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?

Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
...  I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
to check that your APT sources are okay.  Probably

   sudo apt update

will do that trick.  If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
didn't obviously break your APT setup.

You might also want to post the output of

   sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}

so we can see what sources you're using.

BTW, I don't use synaptic myself.  Too much bloat.  The command-line
suits my needs just fine.


    I'd have loved using aptitude but could never understand how to do 
the simplest thing with it, although I watched several experts using it 
and was impressed. As a menu-driven package manager, I very often use 
Synaptic, leaving apt-get for quick simple things or when dist-upgrading.


    I don't use synaptic with pkexec to get the permission. I think I 
haven't pkexec installed. I have a button on my pannel programmed with 
sh -c "SUDO_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass sudo -A synaptic".


    For this to work, I must have ssh-askpass installed, /etc/sudoers 
configured to allow me to invoque synaptic, plus the following line in 
/etc/sudoers:


Defaults env_keep = "EDITOR LOGNAME XAUTHORITY DISPLAY"

    Only XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY  are needed in this case, the other 
variables serve other purposes.


    Hth.

--     Didier

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Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Tito,

tito via Dng  writes:

> Hi,
> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package 
> manager i get:
>
>  synaptic-pkexec
> ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in 
> app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, 
> file=file)
>   File 
> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
>  line 109, in __init__
> SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
>   File 
> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
> line 109, in __init__
> self.reload_sourceslist()
>   File 
> "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", 
> line 599, in reload_sourceslist
> self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in 
> get_sources
> raise NoDistroTemplateException(
> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
> distribution template for Devuan/chimaera
>
>
> Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?

Here's wondering why youu'd need UbuntuDrivers on a Devuan system but
...  I'd try an `apt update` with root privileges on the command line
to check that your APT sources are okay.  Probably

  sudo apt update

will do that trick.  If that goes alright (ignoring network issues), you
didn't obviously break your APT setup.

You might also want to post the output of

  sed 's/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}

so we can see what sources you're using.

BTW, I don't use synaptic myself.  Too much bloat.  The command-line
suits my needs just fine.

Hope this helps,
--
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[DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-24 Thread tito via Dng
Hi,
while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package manager 
i get:

 synaptic-pkexec 
ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in 
app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, 
file=file)
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py",
 line 109, in __init__
SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 
109, in __init__
self.reload_sourceslist()
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 
599, in reload_sourceslist
self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in 
get_sources
raise NoDistroTemplateException(
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a 
distribution template for Devuan/chimaera


Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again?

Ciao,
Tito
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