Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix

2020-05-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/16/20 11:49 PM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote:
> The only thing it has in favor( we could join to that a simpler way of
> configuration, no m4 needed like Sendmail),
> it consumes horrendous amounts of resources.. with no explanation for
> such hog resources behavior.. but it lacks a ton of features from Exim4(
> based in Sendmail )..

"hog resources" & "lacks a ton of features" ??!?
are you sure? care to put some examples?

just wandering, cause i've seen no such behaviour/lack of features from
"newbie" postfix in the past decade+... been a while since i used exim4
(like a decade ago :D)...

i know there's no postfix-light package, in contrast to
exim4-daemon-light (...), but never really felt the need for one...


d.





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Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix

2020-05-16 Thread tuxd3v

hi,

Citando Rick Moen via Dng :


Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org):

Hi Rick :)


Greetings, friend!

Is there a reference to a Debian mailing list (or a similar digital
history document) where the decision to switch to Postfix was taken?


Upon re-examination, I believe I erred, and Exim4 remains Default MTA in
Debian, albeit arguing over that vs. Postfix appears to be a sempiternal
flamewar^W discussion.
 


Exim4 is a very good MTA,

Pseudo Operating systems like IBM RedHat, uses Postfix,
Interestingly enough is that IBM started Postfix, but they use the  
good old Sendmail in Aix :)


Postfix is multi-threaded,
The only thing it has in favor( we could join to that a simpler way of  
configuration, no m4 needed like Sendmail),
it consumes horrendous amounts of resources.. with no explanation for  
such hog resources behavior.. but it lacks a ton of features from  
Exim4( based in Sendmail )..


They are targeted at different audiences, and this is the root of  
"disagreement"..


Postfix is for newbies, or for RedHat limited fanboys,

Exim4 is for diehard Administrators, serious admins that dominate the  
"art of the sword" and understand its power,

Also Sendmail is for top Samurai Warriors..

Because they don't serve the same audience at all,
There are always such flamewars discussions..

[ The Wannabe vs The Samurai ]

One audience with its limited knowledge, doesn't understand the other,
And the other, refuses to use Postfix because they understand the  
"power of the sword" present in Exim4/Sendmail..


This is the most simple way, I think about them..
Remember that even IBM that made available Postfix, continues to use  
Sendmail in Aix :)


You can't ask to a blind guy to drive a F1 Race Car..
I think each one should use what is most tailored to his knowledge/role..

Best Regards,
 
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Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix

2020-05-15 Thread Rick Moen via Dng
Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org):

> Hi Rick :)

Greetings, friend!

> Is there a reference to a Debian mailing list (or a similar digital
> history document) where the decision to switch to Postfix was taken?

Upon re-examination, I believe I erred, and Exim4 remains Default MTA in
Debian, albeit arguing over that vs. Postfix appears to be a sempiternal
flamewar^W discussion.

-- 
Cheers,
Rick MoenDiaeresis:  Keeping the cow out of co-worker since 700 AD.
r...@linuxmafia.com
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Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix

2020-05-15 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-05-12 23:58, Rick Moen via Dng wrote:

> Passing along as Postfix is now default MTA for Devuan/Debian.
> Untested by this reporter.  (Personally, I still like Exim4.)

Hi Rick :)

Is there a reference to a Debian mailing list (or a similar digital
history document) where the decision to switch to Postfix was taken?

-- 
Ian
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