Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread g4sra via Dng
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If you wish to play around (view) what the fonts you have installed actually 
look like, 'apt-get install x11-utils' will provide you with 'xfontsel' which 
is mouse driven.
It also indicates fonts missing from the system that it knows about as 'greyed 
out' in the menu selection, so you can at least track any missing font down by 
name.

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Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal. SOLVED

2021-08-22 Thread dvalin

   On 22.08.21 05:33, . wrote:
  > This link had some good info:
  >
  >
https://askubuntu.com/questions/161652/how-to-change-the-default-font-size-of-xterm
  > 
  >
  > I set up a .Xresources file and used "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources"
to
  > activate it.  Here's my .Xresources file:
  >
  > > xterm*faceName: DejaVu Sans Mono
  > > xterm*faceSize: 16
  >
  > As far as I know, the DejaVu fonts are utf-8 compliant.  (But I
may be
  > wrong.)

  
  Holey Moley! That displays not only apostrophes, but even an image
of  an open book, and a square-face robot head. And that fontsize is 
  certainly big enough. :-)
  
  
  Many thanks. That's a lot easier than futzing with a mystery mix
  of undocumented font commands, and superbly successful.
  
  
  Erik


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Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread dvalin

 On 22.08.21 10:45, al3xu5 wrote:
  > Sun, 22 Aug 2021 15:48:15 +0930 - dva...@internode.on.net:
  >
  > I have the `fonts-dejavu` package installed (not ttf-dejavu) with
a
  > very large Unicode character set; then running:

  Looks like I have that one:

  $ dpkg -l fonts-dejavu
  Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
  |
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
  |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
  ||/ Name   Version  Architecture
Description
 
+++-==---
  ii  fonts-dejavu   2.37-1   all 
metapackage to pull in fonts-dejavu-core and fonts-dej

  > ~~~
  > xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans" -fs 12
  > ~~~

  Hmm, here that just gives "tiny" fontsize, ~ 1.5mm character
height.
  And "-fs 24" does exactly the same, as does -fs 120. So not a lot
of
  joy there.

  > or
  >
  > ~~~
  > xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans Mono" -fs 12
  > ~~~

  As above, i.e no change.

  > it seems there are not troubles displaying any character (i.e.
`~-_àèù||¦
  > etc)

  Yes, even xterm (without -u8) displays the apostrophes and hyphens
_if_
  I leave off the "-fn 10x20". Now, if I can just find a way to
actually
  set the fontsize?

  Many thanks for the datapoints. It's a pity it's not working here.

  Erik


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Re: [DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-22 Thread al3xu5
Sun, 22 Aug 2021 15:48:15 +0930 - dva...@internode.on.net:

> After having trouble displaying apostrophe and hyphen in recent
> posts  on several lists, I've found that it is not "xterm -u8" or
> uxterm which  are intrinsically deficient, but rather it is my "-fn
> 10x20" option which  is selecting a font size which presumably
> lacks  an adequate utf8  character set. I.e., without the fontsize
> option, the problem 
>   characters display OK.
> 
> The reason for that option is that even selecting "Huge" at 
> Ctrl-Right_Click gives an unreadably small font size.
> Does anyone know of a substantial fontsize with a more complete  utf8
> character set, or a howto on exploring installed X11 fonts and 
>   their size and unicode characteristics?
> Here, fc-list lists many fonts, without any useful size clues, and 
> "fc-match utf8" shows only one font:
> DejaVuSansttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
> And "xlsfonts | grep utf8" returns nothing.
> 
> And "xset q" shows: Font Path:
>  
> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins
> 
> Any thoughts on whether:  console-setup - console font and keymap
> setup program  might help?
> 
> Of the squillion font packages available, would there  be mileage in
> installing perhaps the first of:
> $ apt-cache search font | grep font | grep unicode | more
> fonts-cmu - sets the computer modern unicode fonts
> fonts-georgewilliams - Free unicode TrueType fonts by George Williams
> fonts-junicode - Unicode font for medievalists (Latin, IPA and Runic)
> fonts-lg-aboriginal - unicode fonts for North-American Aboriginal
> languages
> fonts-oflb-euterpe - unicode musical font
> fonts-senamirmir-washra - collection of unicode fonts for the Ethiopic
> script
> xfonts-efont-unicode - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X which cover various
> scripts
> xfonts-efont-unicode-ib - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X (italic and bold
> But what then? Any firm ground in this swamp would help a lot while
> I  work on building taller stilts. Google hits thus far furnish
> little or no  additional stuff to check or implement.
> 
> Erik
> 


Hi Erik

I have the `fonts-dejavu` package installed (not ttf-dejavu) with a
very large Unicode character set; then running:

~~~
xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans" -fs 12
~~~

or

~~~
xterm -fn "Dejavu Sans Mono" -fs 12
~~~

it seems there are not troubles displaying any character (i.e. `~-_àèù|\|¦
etc)

Regards
al3xu5

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[DNG] Displaying adequately sized UTF8 characters in a terminal

2021-08-21 Thread dvalin

After having trouble displaying apostrophe and hyphen in recent
posts  on several lists, I've found that it is not "xterm -u8" or
uxterm which  are intrinsically deficient, but rather it is my "-fn
10x20" option which  is selecting a font size which presumably
lacks  an adequate utf8  character set. I.e., without the fontsize
option, the problem 
  characters display OK.

The reason for that option is that even selecting "Huge" at 
Ctrl-Right_Click gives an unreadably small font size.
Does anyone know of a substantial fontsize with a more complete  utf8
character set, or a howto on exploring installed X11 fonts and 
  their size and unicode characteristics?
Here, fc-list lists many fonts, without any useful size clues, and 
"fc-match utf8" shows only one font:
DejaVuSansttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
And "xlsfonts | grep utf8" returns nothing.

And "xset q" shows: Font Path:
 
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins

Any thoughts on whether:  console-setup - console font and keymap
setup program  might help?

Of the squillion font packages available, would there  be mileage in
installing perhaps the first of:
$ apt-cache search font | grep font | grep unicode | more
fonts-cmu - sets the computer modern unicode fonts
fonts-georgewilliams - Free unicode TrueType fonts by George Williams
fonts-junicode - Unicode font for medievalists (Latin, IPA and Runic)
fonts-lg-aboriginal - unicode fonts for North-American Aboriginal
languages
fonts-oflb-euterpe - unicode musical font
fonts-senamirmir-washra - collection of unicode fonts for the Ethiopic
script
xfonts-efont-unicode - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X which cover various
scripts
xfonts-efont-unicode-ib - /efont/ Unicode fonts for X (italic and bold
But what then? Any firm ground in this swamp would help a lot while
I  work on building taller stilts. Google hits thus far furnish
little or no  additional stuff to check or implement.

Erik

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