Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Sun, 16 Jan 2022 11:56:51 + - ael via Dng :

> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 04:12:44AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > 
> > This was discussed on the devuan-offtopic IRC channel, so I watched the
> > video:
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E  
> 
> But youtube has become impossible to watch with hideous intrusive
> deviant advertisements... And google seem to have found a way to make
> youtube-dl hopelessly slow. Not to mention that the YT viewer is
> dire: you can't slow down or speed up etc like, say, mpv.
> 
> A bit off topic, I know...
> 
> Does anyone know of a way of accessing youtube nowadays without wasting
> huge amounts of time and losing the will to live and all concentration
> before getting to the proper topic (etc)?

Give TorBrowser a try.

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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

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On 16-01-2022 15:32, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:



On 16 Jan 2022, at 23:38, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng 
 wrote:


Install umatrix + ublock-origin and that pestilence is gone. Be aware 
that you'll have to fiddle with umatrix to get videos playing.


uMatrix is EOL and the GitHub repository archived a long time ago.

You can achieve similar functionality with just ublock origin with the 
advanced mode dynamic filtering.


https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-quick-guide 



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On most systems i do not bother to use the advanced mode from uBlock, 
just update your lists regularly. uBlock as browser addon and PiHole as 
dns blocks virtually every ad and even better it blocks the trackers 
from Facebook, Google etc.


Grtz

Nick

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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[Antony Stone]

On Sunday 16 January 2022 at 15:42:13, Maurice McCarthy via Dng wrote:

> Can you block ads on the firewall? On OpenBSD's pf firewall config
> file this pretty much wipes out all ads on youtube.
> 
> table  {8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4}
> table  {2001:4860:4860:: 2001:4860:4860::8844}
> pass in quick to  rdr-to 127.0.0.1
> pass in quick to  rdr-to ::1
> 
> Blocking Google's own DNS servers.

This needs to go where?  On the client machine I want to see YouTube on, or on 
my local caching recursive DNS server?

Are you blocking DNS lookups to Google, or are you saying that the ad content 
itself comes from the same IP addresses (which I know are not "proper servers" 
- it's a geo-diverse network of many many machines, but they could be content 
servers as well as DNS)?

Assuming I do not use Google DNS servers in my client machine's resolv.conf (I 
have a local recursive caching DNS server on my network, with a hints file 
pointing at the root name servers), I don't believe that my client computer 
would ever contact Google's DNS to resolve a machine's name, so I'm puzzled as 
to what traffic actually needs to be blocked.

Thanks for any further info you can provide; it looks like a neat solution :)


Antony.

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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[Maurice McCarthy via Dng]

Can you block ads on the firewall? On OpenBSD's pf firewall config
file this pretty much wipes out all ads on youtube.

table  {8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4}
table  {2001:4860:4860:: 2001:4860:4860::8844}
pass in quick to  rdr-to 127.0.0.1
pass in quick to  rdr-to ::1

Blocking Google's own DNS servers.
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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[wirelessduck--- via Dng]

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 23:38, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng  
> wrote:
> 
> Install umatrix + ublock-origin and that pestilence is gone. Be aware that 
> you'll have to fiddle with umatrix to get videos playing.

uMatrix is EOL and the GitHub repository archived a long time ago.

You can achieve similar functionality with just ublock origin with the advanced 
mode dynamic filtering.

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-quick-guide___
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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[ael via Dng]

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 01:38:52PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote:
> Anno domini 2022 Sun, 16 Jan 11:56:51 +
>  ael via Dng scripsit:
> > But youtube has become impossible to watch with hideous intrusive
> > deviant advertisements... And google seem to have found a way to make
> > youtube-dl hopelessly slow. Not to mention that the YT viewer is
> > dire: you can't slow down or speed up etc like, say, mpv.
> 
> Install umatrix + ublock-origin and that pestilence is gone. Be aware that 
> you'll have to fiddle with umatrix to get videos playing.
> 
> yt-download is gon with the wind. Use a fork  like yt-ldp 
> https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp - that's what I have in use.

Thank you so much for that. I should have found yt-dlp myself. Just 
tried it and it worked perfectly, at least on one test case.

Wonderful.

ael

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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[terryc]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 11:56:51 +
ael via Dng  wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 04:12:44AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > 
> > This was discussed on the devuan-offtopic IRC channel, so I watched
> > the video:
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E  
> 
> But youtube has become impossible to watch with hideous intrusive
> deviant advertisements... And google seem to have found a way to make
> youtube-dl hopelessly slow. Not to mention that the YT viewer is
> dire: you can't slow down or speed up etc like, say, mpv.

Shrug, I've just been using the youtube-dl (in the repository) in a
couple of terminals as I do other stuff and eventually get around to
using vlc to watch them

I've been doing that for only a short while and find I've had to create
a file structure to store them by subject.

Tip, restarting some stuff where it responds '403 forbidden' is
usually successful.

YMMV, but I find that procedure better than purging cookies to get the
one add free 'preview'.

By the time you posted, the subject video had downloaded.
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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng]

Anno domini 2022 Sun, 16 Jan 11:56:51 +
 ael via Dng scripsit:
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 04:12:44AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > This was discussed on the devuan-offtopic IRC channel, so I watched the
> > video:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E
>
> But youtube has become impossible to watch with hideous intrusive
> deviant advertisements... And google seem to have found a way to make
> youtube-dl hopelessly slow. Not to mention that the YT viewer is
> dire: you can't slow down or speed up etc like, say, mpv.

Install umatrix + ublock-origin and that pestilence is gone. Be aware that 
you'll have to fiddle with umatrix to get videos playing.

yt-download is gon with the wind. Use a fork  like yt-ldp 
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp - that's what I have in use.

>
> A bit off topic, I know...
>
> Does anyone know of a way of accessing youtube nowadays without wasting
> huge amounts of time and losing the will to live and all concentration
> before getting to the proper topic (etc)?

No. yt is broken, since "AI" took over.

Nik

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Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

[ael via Dng]

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 04:12:44AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> This was discussed on the devuan-offtopic IRC channel, so I watched the
> video:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E

But youtube has become impossible to watch with hideous intrusive
deviant advertisements... And google seem to have found a way to make
youtube-dl hopelessly slow. Not to mention that the YT viewer is
dire: you can't slow down or speed up etc like, say, mpv.

A bit off topic, I know...

Does anyone know of a way of accessing youtube nowadays without wasting
huge amounts of time and losing the will to live and all concentration
before getting to the proper topic (etc)?

ael

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