Re: [DNG] Fake RAID

2022-03-11 Thread Didier Kryn

Le 10/03/2022 à 18:52, Hendrik Boom a écrit :

On the other hand, mdadm also is not a
piece of cake but I can find my way with it and I have developped a 
graphics
monitoring tool for it, actually a little web server displaying the 
status

of all the host's md RAIDs.

That looks useful.
I already have a web server.
Is it possible to easily configure this thing so it provides content 
to an existing web server?


    Diskweb is a minimal web server providing two tables:

    - the status of md RAID devices

    - the occupancy of mounted filesystems

    - an index file containing links to the 2 above.

If you want to aglomerate contents from various web services, I 
recommend installing Nginx. Nginx is a very nice web server and 
reverse-proxy. It is relatively easy to configure and is designed to be 
the front-end to other servers, wether http, https, cgi-bin and 
fcgi-bin. One possible role is as an https front-end merging data from 
http or fcgi-bin servers either local or in LAN.


A few years ago I set up such a service in which one of the pages was 
merging RAID status tables from 5 diskweb servers in the LAN.


I think it makes sense to separate raw content production (like diskweb 
does) and polished presentation.


--     Didier


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Re: [DNG] Fake RAID

2022-03-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:18:13PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 09/03/2022 à 17:12, d...@d404.nl a écrit :
> > On 09-03-2022 16:55, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Did you read the following guide?
> > > > 
> > > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid
> > > Interesting note.
> > > 
> > > What is a "fake RAID"?  Is it a RAID or not?
> > > 
> > > -- hendrik
> > > 
> > A real RAID controller has hardware and software on board and often a
> > battery backup. A "fake" RAID does have some hardware but no software or
> > better some software but depends on a Windows driver for the RAID
> > functions. Same trick as with Win modems and printers.
> 
> 
>     I have worked with Dell Poweredge servers around 15 y ago. These had
> PERC hardware RAIDs able to completely do the whole job without any help
> from the OS. The configured RAID devices were seen by the kernel as
> individual disks. After a few years working like this I configured the PERC
> so as to show every disk individually (therefore no RAID), and managed
> software RAIDs using mdadm. md RAIDS, not dm RAIDS. dm stands for
> device-mapper, which also means Logical Volume Manager. On the contrary of
> what is said in the Debian document, I found LVM (dm RAIDs) not much more
> usefull than md and overly complex. On the other hand, mdadm also is not a
> piece of cake but I can find my way with it and I have developped a graphics
> monitoring tool for it, actually a little web server displaying the status
> of all the host's md RAIDs.

That looks useful.
I already have a web server.
Is it possible to easily configure this thing so it provides content to an 
existing web server?

-- hendrik
> 
>     What I mean is that there is probably the possibility to configure the
> PERC as no-RAID and build a software RAID on Linux, if this is manageable
> for your Win10.
> 
> --     Didier
> 
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Re: [DNG] Fake RAID

2022-03-09 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 19:18:13 +0100
Didier Kryn  wrote:

> Le 09/03/2022 à 17:12, d...@d404.nl a écrit :
> > On 09-03-2022 16:55, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote:
> >>
> >>> Did you read the following guide?
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid
> >> Interesting note.
> >>
> >> What is a "fake RAID"?  Is it a RAID or not?
> >>
> >> -- hendrik
> >>
> > A real RAID controller has hardware and software on board and often a 
> > battery backup. A "fake" RAID does have some hardware but no software 
> > or better some software but depends on a Windows driver for the RAID 
> > functions. Same trick as with Win modems and printers. 
> 
> 
>      I have worked with Dell Poweredge servers around 15 y ago. These 
> had PERC hardware RAIDs able to completely do the whole job without any 
> help from the OS. The configured RAID devices were seen by the kernel as 
> individual disks. After a few years working like this I configured the 
> PERC so as to show every disk individually (therefore no RAID), and 
> managed software RAIDs using mdadm. md RAIDS, not dm RAIDS. dm stands 
> for device-mapper, which also means Logical Volume Manager. On the 
> contrary of what is said in the Debian document, I found LVM (dm RAIDs) 
> not much more usefull than md and overly complex. On the other hand, 
> mdadm also is not a piece of cake but I can find my way with it and I 
> have developped a graphics monitoring tool for it, actually a little web 
> server displaying the status of all the host's md RAIDs.
Hi,
I'm interested about this web server thing is it packaged?

Ciao,
Tito

>      What I mean is that there is probably the possibility to configure 
> the PERC as no-RAID and build a software RAID on Linux, if this is 
> manageable for your Win10.
> 
> --     Didier
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Re: [DNG] Fake RAID

2022-03-09 Thread Didier Kryn

Le 09/03/2022 à 17:12, d...@d404.nl a écrit :

On 09-03-2022 16:55, Hendrik Boom wrote:

On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote:


Did you read the following guide?

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid

Interesting note.

What is a "fake RAID"?  Is it a RAID or not?

-- hendrik

A real RAID controller has hardware and software on board and often a 
battery backup. A "fake" RAID does have some hardware but no software 
or better some software but depends on a Windows driver for the RAID 
functions. Same trick as with Win modems and printers. 



    I have worked with Dell Poweredge servers around 15 y ago. These 
had PERC hardware RAIDs able to completely do the whole job without any 
help from the OS. The configured RAID devices were seen by the kernel as 
individual disks. After a few years working like this I configured the 
PERC so as to show every disk individually (therefore no RAID), and 
managed software RAIDs using mdadm. md RAIDS, not dm RAIDS. dm stands 
for device-mapper, which also means Logical Volume Manager. On the 
contrary of what is said in the Debian document, I found LVM (dm RAIDs) 
not much more usefull than md and overly complex. On the other hand, 
mdadm also is not a piece of cake but I can find my way with it and I 
have developped a graphics monitoring tool for it, actually a little web 
server displaying the status of all the host's md RAIDs.


    What I mean is that there is probably the possibility to configure 
the PERC as no-RAID and build a software RAID on Linux, if this is 
manageable for your Win10.


--     Didier

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Re: [DNG] Fake RAID

2022-03-09 Thread d...@d404.nl

On 09-03-2022 16:55, Hendrik Boom wrote:

On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote:


Did you read the following guide?

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid

Interesting note.

What is a "fake RAID"?  Is it a RAID or not?

-- hendrik

A real RAID controller has hardware and software on board and often a 
battery backup. A "fake" RAID does have some hardware but no software or 
better some software but depends on a Windows driver for the RAID 
functions. Same trick as with Win modems and printers.


Grtz.

Nick

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[DNG] Fake RAID

2022-03-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote:

> 
> Did you read the following guide?
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid

Interesting note.

What is a "fake RAID"?  Is it a RAID or not?

-- hendrik
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