Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 14:09, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > To do normal browsing, I am using Waterfox which is Firefox without > the late many 'cool' additions. You can also try palemoon, I am using it for many things on devuan. -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
From: Steve Litt What browser do you use instead, Edward. All browsers suck, and I'm still looking for a good one. Did you try Netsurf? There is Midori too, but it installs too much dependencies. -- Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 02:02:02PM -0700, spiralofhope wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 06:24:56 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > > What I do when it starts to slow down is ctrl-alt-F2, log in and > > start killing programs. Thunderbird is usually on that kill list, > > because it takes a lot of ram, too. If I wait too long to do that, it > > freezes. At some point, even sysrq keys won't work. > > I recalled a program which automatically kills tasks which are being > hogs, which is an extreme and not-recommended workaround. I couldn't > find it offhand, but I found other solutions out there which act like > that. In theory, a monitoring script could be made for this, and even > made smart enough prompt for action (with a timeout for automatic > action). Would that be the oom-killer? > > > Also, would ulimit be helpful? > > https://ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 06:24:56 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > What I do when it starts to slow down is ctrl-alt-F2, log in and > start killing programs. Thunderbird is usually on that kill list, > because it takes a lot of ram, too. If I wait too long to do that, it > freezes. At some point, even sysrq keys won't work. I recalled a program which automatically kills tasks which are being hogs, which is an extreme and not-recommended workaround. I couldn't find it offhand, but I found other solutions out there which act like that. In theory, a monitoring script could be made for this, and even made smart enough prompt for action (with a timeout for automatic action). Also, would ulimit be helpful? https://ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 06:24:56 -0400, fsmithred wrote in message <72121d31-c37a-3b43-1ebb-0cb264310...@gmail.com>: > On 7/9/19 4:34 AM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > > For the information of everyone: > > > > I would like to inform all those concerned that firefox-esr is > > causing ASCII to freeze. Getting access to a terminal is almost > > impossible. Yesterday, I had to power off the machine. I did not > > investigate why the issue is happening as the system became > > extremely unresponsive. Recalling when I used MS Windows > > 95/98/Millenium, this is worse than those. > > > > > I get the same in jessie. It starts when memory use gets to around > 75% or more. It hasn't happened to me in ascii, but the box that has > ascii also has 8G ram. > > Recently, I read something that said firefox will require 2-3G of > memory in the near future. We can look forward to more of this > happening. > > What I do when it starts to slow down is ctrl-alt-F2, log in and > start killing programs. Thunderbird is usually on that kill list, > because it takes a lot of ram, too. If I wait too long to do that, it > freezes. At some point, even sysrq keys won't work. ..I run all my browsers "nice -n 17 " or lower pri and kill 'em when they get sluggish, buys me time to do manual kills on e.g. htop, in bad cases I ssh in to kill. ..also possible to deny them cpu and memory and automate killing them as they try outgrow their resource quota, but "nice -n 17 " has worked ok for me this far. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
you should also check if firefox is running something malicious from visited sites, like a cryptominer script. use ublock origin, noscript extensions to see differences in firefox behavior too.. maybe even run firefox with firejail, or try a new profile... --- i also use icecat occasionally, as it keeps js very limited, if not disabled at all.. better browsing experience, when websites don't break :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
To pay my bills online I use Chromium as I have no other choice. Websites are becoming dictators as to which browser one uses. To do normal browsing, I am using Waterfox which is Firefox without the late many 'cool' additions. This experience is making me nostalgic of the times when I was using Debian Sarge and Debian Etch! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 10:34:34 +0200 Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Please note, this post is not intended as a complaint against the > Devuan distribution. Firefox is not written by Devuan. My post should > be viewed as an advice to anyone still using firefox who would not > like to get their OS crashing. What browser do you use instead, Edward. All browsers suck, and I'm still looking for a good one. SteveT Steve Litt July 2019 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
On 7/9/19 4:34 AM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: For the information of everyone: I would like to inform all those concerned that firefox-esr is causing ASCII to freeze. Getting access to a terminal is almost impossible. Yesterday, I had to power off the machine. I did not investigate why the issue is happening as the system became extremely unresponsive. Recalling when I used MS Windows 95/98/Millenium, this is worse than those. I get the same in jessie. It starts when memory use gets to around 75% or more. It hasn't happened to me in ascii, but the box that has ascii also has 8G ram. Recently, I read something that said firefox will require 2-3G of memory in the near future. We can look forward to more of this happening. What I do when it starts to slow down is ctrl-alt-F2, log in and start killing programs. Thunderbird is usually on that kill list, because it takes a lot of ram, too. If I wait too long to do that, it freezes. At some point, even sysrq keys won't work. fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII
For the information of everyone: I would like to inform all those concerned that firefox-esr is causing ASCII to freeze. Getting access to a terminal is almost impossible. Yesterday, I had to power off the machine. I did not investigate why the issue is happening as the system became extremely unresponsive. Recalling when I used MS Windows 95/98/Millenium, this is worse than those. Please note, this post is not intended as a complaint against the Devuan distribution. Firefox is not written by Devuan. My post should be viewed as an advice to anyone still using firefox who would not like to get their OS crashing. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
