Re: [DNG] Gaffer tape: was Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-18 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt  wrote:

>> Gaffer tape and {duct|duck} tape are different products.  Gaffer tape
>> is less adhesive and is designed to be removed easily.  It is more
>> expensive :-)

Ah yes, you are correct - but few sellers give enough information to decide 
what is what.

>> If you have ever used the other tape to secure cables
>> to the floor and then uprooted those cables when tearing down, you
>> will know the misery of trying to remove the other kind of tape now
>> wrapped seamlessly around the cable.

I do indeed have experience of that.

> Wrapped around the cable is the least of your problems: Duct tape can
> damage the carpet, putting the presenter in a world of hurt.
> 
> Given that most of us give presentations requiring taping of cables for
> safety, I think this is ontopic.
> 
> Where can one get gaffer tape especially created to tape cables to the
> carpet for safety purposes? I've used wide clear cellophane tape up to
> now, but that's not really as safe.

Yes, it's a sticky situation to be in - sorry couldn't resist that pun :-)

I do actually have a roll of foil duct tape in the cupboard at work. It's not 
the usual cloth stuff, but a thin sheet of "sticky back kitchen foil" for want 
of a better description. All I'll say is that it's a "write only" option 
applying that - and you really really would not want to use it for anything but 
sealing ducts (which is what I blagged it for).

I also have the reverse experience - of taping things up, only for the tape to 
stop holding it. Sometimes the sticky dries up and leaves a brittle residue 
behind, other times it turns into a horrible soft "sticky mess" that gets 
everywhere it touches.


Of course, there is along history in adhesives. Going back to Roman times, 
there was the god Bosticus - and before them the Greeks had Araldites, the twin 
gods of togetherness.
OK, I'll get my coat.

___
Dng mailing list
Dng@lists.dyne.org
https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng


[DNG] Gaffer tape: was Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:00:07 -0400 (EDT)
Peter Olson  wrote:

> > On July 16, 2016 at 8:51 AM Simon Hobson 
> > wrote:  
> 
>   [...]
> 
> > > Duct tape, actually.  It's like the Force.  It has a light side
> > > and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
> > > 
> > > Duct tape is cool.  
> > 
> > Over here, the common term is gaffer tape. Duct tape is a common
> > term as well, and of course the commercial product playing on the
> > homophone (if I go the right word) with Duck Tape  
> 
> Gaffer tape and {duct|duck} tape are different products.  Gaffer tape
> is less adhesive and is designed to be removed easily.  It is more
> expensive :-)  If you have ever used the other tape to secure cables
> to the floor and then uprooted those cables when tearing down, you
> will know the misery of trying to remove the other kind of tape now
> wrapped seamlessly around the cable.

Wrapped around the cable is the least of your problems: Duct tape can
damage the carpet, putting the presenter in a world of hurt.

Given that most of us give presentations requiring taping of cables for
safety, I think this is ontopic.

Where can one get gaffer tape especially created to tape cables to the
carpet for safety purposes? I've used wide clear cellophane tape up to
now, but that's not really as safe.

Thanks,
 
SteveT

Steve Litt 
July 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques
 of the Successful Technologist
http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
___
Dng mailing list
Dng@lists.dyne.org
https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng