Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-27 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng


> On 27 Apr 2022, at 17:51, . via Dng  wrote:
> 
> I'll dig into adding proprietary drivers.  The Lenovo website only lists 
> Windows-based driver/firmware/BIOS updates, so that's no help.  Am I right 
> that the process for Debian and for Devuan should be about the same?
> 
> thanks again, -Bob

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-p-series-laptops/thinkpad-p1-gen-4-type-20y3-20y4/downloads/driver-list

If this is the correct page for your laptop, there is a bootable CD image that 
you should be able to copy to a USB drive with `dd` if you have one spare. Even 
though it mentions Windows, it shouldn’t matter as it’s a bootable CD image and 
won’t touch your hard drive. You should be able to select the USB drive from 
the bios boot menu if it is copied correctly to the usb drive.

There is also a bios update tool on that page that claims to be compatible with 
Debian 9 and might work under Devuan.

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Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-27 Thread . via Dng
Thanks to everyone for suggestions.  I've had a chance to try a build of 
daedalus --- it didn't work either.  Temporarily back on Kubuntu 
(busy/bad time of the year to be playing with hardware configs).  I did 
get a comparison of the outputs of lsusb, lspci, and lsmod on both 
daedalus and kubuntu.  lsusb and lspci are unchanged (no surprise?) but 
the list of differences in the "lsmod" output is quite long.


What I *think* I'm picking out of that is the presence of nVidia 
devices, particularly for audio and for a "VGA compatible controller" 
(although there's also an Intel GT1 VGA compatible controller) in the 
"lspci" output.  So I'm thinking that I'm missing some proprietary drivers.


I'll dig into adding proprietary drivers.  The Lenovo website only lists 
Windows-based driver/firmware/BIOS updates, so that's no help.  Am I 
right that the process for Debian and for Devuan should be about the same?


thanks again, -Bob


On 4/25/22 05:54, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

On 24 Apr 2022, at 21:28, . via Dng  wrote:

I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the audio, 
camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in the power 
switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for...

It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I need a command 
like "lspci" to identify the multimedia hardware, but I don't know what to look 
for.

For what it's worth, the last couple of releases of Ubuntu *do* support the 
multimedia hardware.  Do I need to move to Daedalus?  If so, is there an 
install package for that?

Thanks for any help in getting this machine up on Devuan.

-Bob Montante


There is a page at https://thinkstation-specs.com/thinkpad/p1-gen-4-2021/ which 
appears to list some specs. Also a PDF at 
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_P1_Gen_4/ThinkPad_P1_Gen_4_Spec.pdf

Have you tried updating to the latest bios? That might help if there are any 
relevant bug fixes.

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-p-series-laptops/thinkpad-p1-gen-4-type-20y3-20y4/downloads/driver-list/

I would follow the advice of Gastón and install the kernel from 
chimaera-backports as it will be much simpler than trying to upgrade to 
daedalus.

https://www.devuan.org/os/packages

Add the backports repository to apt sources and then run

apt-get update && apt-get install -t chimaera-backports linux-image-amd64

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Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-25 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng


> On 24 Apr 2022, at 21:28, . via Dng  wrote:
> I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the audio, 
> camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in the power 
> switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for...
> 
> It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I need a 
> command like "lspci" to identify the multimedia hardware, but I don't know 
> what to look for.
> 
> For what it's worth, the last couple of releases of Ubuntu *do* support the 
> multimedia hardware.  Do I need to move to Daedalus?  If so, is there an 
> install package for that?
> 
> Thanks for any help in getting this machine up on Devuan.
> 
> -Bob Montante
> 

There is a page at https://thinkstation-specs.com/thinkpad/p1-gen-4-2021/ which 
appears to list some specs. Also a PDF at 
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_P1_Gen_4/ThinkPad_P1_Gen_4_Spec.pdf

Have you tried updating to the latest bios? That might help if there are any 
relevant bug fixes.

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-p-series-laptops/thinkpad-p1-gen-4-type-20y3-20y4/downloads/driver-list/

I would follow the advice of Gastón and install the kernel from 
chimaera-backports as it will be much simpler than trying to upgrade to 
daedalus.

https://www.devuan.org/os/packages

Add the backports repository to apt sources and then run

apt-get update && apt-get install -t chimaera-backports linux-image-amd64

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Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-24 Thread Gastón via Dng
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 07:28:38AM -0400, . via Dng wrote:
> I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the audio,
> camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in the power
> switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for...
> 
> It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I need
> a command like "lspci" to identify the multimedia hardware, but I don't know
> what to look for.
> 
> For what it's worth, the last couple of releases of Ubuntu *do* support the
> multimedia hardware.  Do I need to move to Daedalus?  If so, is there an
> install package for that?
> 
Hi, did you try to install the kernel that is in the chimaera
backports repo?

It is version 5.16, the same that will come in Daedalus.

$ apt-cache madison linux-image-amd64
linux-image-amd64 | 5.17.3-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged unstable/main amd64 
Packages
linux-image-amd64 | 5.16.18-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main 
amd64 Packages
linux-image-amd64 | 5.16.12-1~bpo11+1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged 
chimaera-backports/main amd64 Packages
linux-image-amd64 | 5.10.106-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main 
amd64 Packages


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Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-24 Thread onefang
On 2022-04-24 07:28:38, . via Dng wrote:
> I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the audio,
> camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in the power
> switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for...
> 
> It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I need
> a command like "lspci" to identify the multimedia hardware, but I don't know
> what to look for.
> 
> For what it's worth, the last couple of releases of Ubuntu *do* support the
> multimedia hardware.  Do I need to move to Daedalus?  If so, is there an
> install package for that?
> 
> Thanks for any help in getting this machine up on Devuan.

Need more info.

Do you mean it's not even showing the devices using those commands others
replied with?

Are you using pulseaudio, which is the default, and it's just not showing
up in their mixer?

Are you using raw ALSA like me, and being very surprised that my graphics
card with two HDMI and two Display Port connectors is showing a dozen HDMI
audio ports, most of which don't work?  But two or three of them do work,
and not always the same ones.

Or something else?

VLC was quite useful in listing all the audio devices, and letting me
quickly switch between them.

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Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-24 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng
Anno domini 2022 Sun, 24 Apr 07:28:38 -0400
 . via Dng scripsit:
> I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the 
> audio, camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in 
> the power switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for...
> 
> It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I 
> need a command like "lspci" to identify the multimedia hardware, but I 
> don't know what to look for.
> 
> For what it's worth, the last couple of releases of Ubuntu *do* support 
> the multimedia hardware.  Do I need to move to Daedalus?  If so, is 
> there an install package for that?
> 
> Thanks for any help in getting this machine up on Devuan.
> 
> -Bob Montante
> 
> 

Have you tried devuan/deadalus, too?

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Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 April 2022 at 13:28:38, . via Dng wrote:

> I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the
> audio, camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in
> the power switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for...

I would start with lspci, lsusb and possibly dmidecode.

> It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I
> need a command like "lspci" to identify the multimedia hardware, but I
> don't know what to look for.

Anything which says "audio" or "video" in the output is a good start :)

> For what it's worth, the last couple of releases of Ubuntu *do* support
> the multimedia hardware.

In that case I would boot into a (live?) version of Ubuntu and run:

lsusb
lspci
lsmod

That last command will tell you which kernel modules have been loaded in order 
to support the various hardware devices.

> Do I need to move to Daedalus?

Possibly - it's worth a try, to see whether it does a better job with less 
work than persuading Chimaera.

> If so, is there an install package for that?

Yes, for example http://devuan.bardia.tech/devuan_daedalus/installer-iso/

> Thanks for any help in getting this machine up on Devuan.

Feel free to post the output of lsusb and lspci here (best from Ubuntu, since 
it seems really to know what the things are) in case anyone recognises devices 
and can point you further in a helpful direction.


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[DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-24 Thread . via Dng
I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the 
audio, camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in 
the power switch).  I could use some guidance in what to look for...


It has a Tiger Lake-H processor, I don't know what chipset.  I think I 
need a command like "lspci" to identify the multimedia hardware, but I 
don't know what to look for.


For what it's worth, the last couple of releases of Ubuntu *do* support 
the multimedia hardware.  Do I need to move to Daedalus?  If so, is 
there an install package for that?


Thanks for any help in getting this machine up on Devuan.

-Bob Montante


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