Re: [DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

[Ángel Ramírez Isea]

On 2016-01-19 08:10, fsmithred wrote:

I did an upgrade of wheezy to devuan jessie last week, and it was
uneventful. It seemed easier than any major upgrades of debian that 
I've

done in the past. Boring description is here -
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160114.194903.4e35c189.en.html

fsr


On 01/19/2016 06:59 AM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:

Greetings,

I have a VPS running whezzy (7.8) which was a little behind updates
before systemd hit the fan. It's used as a LAMP stack and i'm
wondering how easy would it be to upgrade it to devuan.

I had a debian vm laying around and remember i did just that and IIRC
it wasn't a big deal. Does anyone have fresh/recent input/tips?

TIA,
Nuno


Reporting another server migrated from Debian 7.8 to Devuan Alpha. No 
hiccups :D


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[DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

[Nuno Magalhães]

Greetings,

I have a VPS running whezzy (7.8) which was a little behind updates
before systemd hit the fan. It's used as a LAMP stack and i'm
wondering how easy would it be to upgrade it to devuan.

I had a debian vm laying around and remember i did just that and IIRC
it wasn't a big deal. Does anyone have fresh/recent input/tips?

TIA,
Nuno
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Re: [DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

[Didier Kryn]

Le 19/01/2016 14:06, Micky Del Favero a écrit :

On workstations I cannot do it because removing dbus remove also
inkskape


That's an example of crazy contamination. Why the f. does inkscape 
need dbus interaction?


Didier

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Re: [DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

[Anto]

On 19/01/16 12:59, Nuno Magalhães wrote:

Greetings,

I have a VPS running whezzy (7.8) which was a little behind updates
before systemd hit the fan. It's used as a LAMP stack and i'm
wondering how easy would it be to upgrade it to devuan.

I had a debian vm laying around and remember i did just that and IIRC
it wasn't a big deal. Does anyone have fresh/recent input/tips?

TIA,
Nuno


Hello Nuno,

I guess it depends on what kind of VPS that you have.

I have 3 VPS', one KVM based and 2 Xen PV based. All of them are running 
Devuan jessie and I don't experience any significant issues. I only had 
some issues during the upgrade from Debian wheezy to Devuan jessie.


I just rented the KVM based VPS last month. I started the installation 
with Debian wheezy 64 bit and cleaned up everything related to systemd, 
mostly due to the use of eudev. I then upgraded to Devuan jessie. The 
only glitch that I had experienced is that, the upgrade process removed 
openssh-server and ssh packages. It also screwed up some packages. I was 
not worry on KVM based VPS as I have full access via the console 
including the access to the GRUB menu during boot.


I had issues on one of my Xen PV based VPS' last year that after the 
upgrade I could not login any more to my VPS either via SSH or console, 
so I had to re-image it a few times. I think that is mainly because of 
the console on Xen PV based VPS has very minimal functionalities. A part 
from that, I think the usage of GRUB legacy on Xen PV based VPS also 
contributes to the locked up of my VPS. I tried to upgrade to GRUB2 but 
I had some issues with that so I stayed with GRUB1. So I had to be 
really careful in upgrading Xen PV based VPS. I usually add --dry-run 
option first when I use apt-get -u dist-upgrade. If the result showed me 
something strange on some packages, I do the upgrade first on those 
packages one by one.


Kind regards,

Anto

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Re: [DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

[fsmithred]

I did an upgrade of wheezy to devuan jessie last week, and it was
uneventful. It seemed easier than any major upgrades of debian that I've
done in the past. Boring description is here -
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160114.194903.4e35c189.en.html

fsr


On 01/19/2016 06:59 AM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a VPS running whezzy (7.8) which was a little behind updates
> before systemd hit the fan. It's used as a LAMP stack and i'm
> wondering how easy would it be to upgrade it to devuan.
> 
> I had a debian vm laying around and remember i did just that and IIRC
> it wasn't a big deal. Does anyone have fresh/recent input/tips?
> 
> TIA,
> Nuno
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Re: [DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

[Micky Del Favero]

Nuno Magalhães  writes:

> I had a debian vm laying around and remember i did just that and IIRC
> it wasn't a big deal. Does anyone have fresh/recent input/tips?

not too much recent, I did last upgrade at the end of november 2015, the
first one was back in may 2015, maybe before (some of list readers
probably remember my post on VUA's facebook group about it :-) ).

It's very simple to upgrade from debian wheezy to devuan jessie, simply
put in /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free

then run:

  # apt-get update
  # apt-get install devuan-keyring devuan-baseconf sysinit-core

sysinit-core is (was?) necessary because without it sysvinit will be
"upgrade" to systemd

Then remove all entry about wheezy in /etc/apt/sources.list and run:

  # apt-get update
  # apt-get dist-upgrade

No problem at all for me, but I don't use gnome, kde or any desktop
enviroment, I don't like them, I use only dwm.

At the end of upgrade on my servers I also run:

  # apt-get remove --purge dbus

to clean installation from dbus, consolekit and co.

On workstations I cannot do it because removing dbus remove also
inkskape (and probably something else that I haven't installed) that
sometimes I use.

Ciao, Micky
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Re: [DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

[dev1fanboy]

quick and easy, no reboot involved for wheezy as systemd isn't pid1 there. 


On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:59 AM, Nuno Magalhães  
wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a VPS running whezzy (7.8) which was a little behind updates
> before systemd hit the fan. It's used as a LAMP stack and i'm
> wondering how easy would it be to upgrade it to devuan.
> 
> I had a debian vm laying around and remember i did just that and IIRC
> it wasn't a big deal. Does anyone have fresh/recent input/tips?
> 
> TIA,
> Nuno
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