[DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Dear All,

After the modesetting issue stopped manifesting itself for some days,
it started again, and now, it is almost happening with every system
boot. As the sceen is completely unreadable with unaligned pixels, I
tried the modprobe command without a display and paying attention not
to make typing mistakes, and attempted to load the i915 kernel module.
The result was, the display returned to normal, but some modules were
still missing, as I couldn't connect to a wifi. My conclusion is, for
some reason, these modules are failing to load.

A shell script checking for i915 and r6981 and loading the missing
modules can solve the issue, but others may have better solutions.

Suggestions for warkarounds, are most welcome.

Thanks.
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Re: [DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-11-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng

Hi!

Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:

Dear All,

Lately, on an HP Probook 4540s, while booting Devuan Boewulf the
screen becomes completely unreabled with unsynchronized lines of
pixels. I will not be surprised if this is some sick joke by HP, to
force their customers to buy new, but I do not know if this is the
case with what I am experiencing. The hopelessly corrupted display
persists even when startx is invoked, but the screen pixels indicate X
fails to load.


Interesting behaviour. Do you have a ATI/AMD video card?

I notice the same behaviour on NetBSD, I recently reported it. It will 
happen typically when there is some "system load" and both X11 as well 
as framebuffer console go havoc. However, if you are remotely logged in, 
everything works (so not "frozen")
I think something goes havoc with the driver that influences the chip. A 
reboot fixes everything.

I dmesg I see various driver related errors.

I don't have the same laptop with Linux though, I have a similar amd64 + 
ATI laptop with Devuan and I have no issues, but it is running ascii.


I fear this could be an issue related with updated drivers. Even more 
incentivated to procrastinate Beowulf upgrade then :)



Riccardo
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[DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-10-24 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Dear All,

The issue seems to have been caused by the laptop's battery
electronics. I removed the battery and reconfigured the kernel package
to rebuild initrd.img. Rebooting did not reproduce the issue. However,
I need several days to confirm the issue has truly been resolved.

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Re: [DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-10-23 Thread terryc
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:42:53 +0200
Edward Bartolo via Dng  wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> Lately, on an HP Probook 4540s, while booting Devuan Boewulf the
> screen becomes completely unreabled with unsynchronized lines of
> pixels.

Which kernel?
Was it recently upgraded?
Which video drivers are your using?
What is your display configuration?

My only suggestion is to ask if you can reboot on an older kernel and
achieve a working solution.

Also check if your video hardware is supported by the video drivers
your system is attempting to load. (Hint check /var/log/dmesg.'n'
and /var/log.Xorg.1.log).

IME, sometime after generally upgrading to Beowulf, the 
default(startup)  video drivers went askew. I first noticed this  when
I attempted installations of Devuan beowulf onto 'clean' hardware.
With one system I had to go back to Jessie to be able to do a basic
server install. 

Since my problem was on a AMD FX motherboard with AMD video card under
the "Radeon" driver, the problem may not be HP related, but rather
something to do with code for AMD.

In other, probably useless information, you can now upgrade kernel up to
5.8 through backports (sudo apt search linux-image-5), but I doublt if
that will fix your problem.

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Re: [DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:42:53 +0200
Edward Bartolo via Dng  wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> Lately, on an HP Probook 4540s, while booting Devuan Boewulf the
> screen becomes completely unreabled with unsynchronized lines of
> pixels. I will not be surprised if this is some sick joke by HP, to
> force their customers to buy new, but I do not know if this is the
> case with what I am experiencing. The hopelessly corrupted display
> persists even when startx is invoked, but the screen pixels indicate X
> fails to load.
> 
> The 'joke' vanishes if I try to reboot the machine without switching
> off power and startx works as if nothing of the sort exists.
> 
> I am asking but bearing in mind, the HP is not very Linux friendly and
> that this issue might be some creative joke on their part. Afterall,
> Aitor was right, that HP are not very Linux friendly!
> 
> Those who have a solution please reply. I tried the 'nomodeset' kernel
> parameter but it made the issue even worse.

Hi Edward,

The only thing I can add to the discussion is that about a decade ago I
used to see this symptom (a kind of moving "tearing" of the screen to
the point of unreadability) on lots of laptops. I'd need to reboot
several times to get it to work properly and it was a real pain in the
ass. As time went on, I stopped seeing the symptom. I think probably
Linux drivers caught up to my laptop's hardware.

As experiments, I'd try the following to see if they alter the symptom:

* Temporarily try it booting directly to X and see if things get better

* If it uses "plymouth", get rid of plymouth and see if things change

* Try to see if the tearing occurs before or after the running of
  udev/eudev/vdev. If after, try changing some video related
  udev/eudev/vdev config parameters.

* Boot a System Rescue CD DVD or thumbdrive, and see if the symptom
  still occurs. If not, you can slowly exploit the differences between
  System Rescue CD and your Devuan installation until you pinpoint the
  root cause.

* Boot a live or install disk of the latest unstable Devuan and note
  any change in symptom.

* Create a tiny partition on your computer and install a tiny Void
  Linux OS, then update with xbps-install -Su so you have an up to date
  rolling release system with pretty much the latest kernel and drivers.

* Don't worry too much about the "joke" aspect of the thing. I've seen
  this before, on non-HP hardware.

HTH,
 
SteveT

Steve Litt 
Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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[DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-10-23 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Dear All,

Lately, on an HP Probook 4540s, while booting Devuan Boewulf the
screen becomes completely unreabled with unsynchronized lines of
pixels. I will not be surprised if this is some sick joke by HP, to
force their customers to buy new, but I do not know if this is the
case with what I am experiencing. The hopelessly corrupted display
persists even when startx is invoked, but the screen pixels indicate X
fails to load.

The 'joke' vanishes if I try to reboot the machine without switching
off power and startx works as if nothing of the sort exists.

I am asking but bearing in mind, the HP is not very Linux friendly and
that this issue might be some creative joke on their part. Afterall,
Aitor was right, that HP are not very Linux friendly!

Those who have a solution please reply. I tried the 'nomodeset' kernel
parameter but it made the issue even worse.

Thanks in advance.
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