Re: [DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?
On Thursday 03 December 2020 at 12:11:11, aitor wrote: > Hi again, > > On 12/3/20 12:00 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > >> I don't know, but sysvinit may have been removed entirely from ubuntu > >> since the early days of upstart, due to its backward compatibility with > >> sysV scripts. > > > > That's a fair point, however in 18.04 and 20.04 there are no packages > > with "upstart" in the name either:( > > The most recent version of trisquel (a libre spin of ubuntu) does > include sysvinit: > > http://mirror.fsf.org/trisquel/dists/flidas/main/binary-amd64/Packages Ooh, thanks - hadn't heard of that one, sounds like it could be just what's needed :) Antony. -- Schrödinger's rule of data integrity: the condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?
Hi again, On 12/3/20 12:00 PM, Antony Stone wrote: I don't know, but sysvinit may have been removed entirely from ubuntu since the early days of upstart, due to its backward compatibility with sysV scripts. That's a fair point, however in 18.04 and 20.04 there are no packages with "upstart" in the name either:( The most recent version of trisquel (a libre spin of ubuntu) does include sysvinit: http://mirror.fsf.org/trisquel/dists/flidas/main/binary-amd64/Packages Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?
On Thursday 03 December 2020 at 11:55:22, aitor wrote: > Hi Antony, > > On 12/3/20 10:32 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > I ask because I've looked at both Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04 systems, and I > > simply don't see the expected sysvinit packages available - I wonder if > > they've been eliminated entirely, rather than just not installed by > > default as Debian does. > > I don't know, but sysvinit may have been removed entirely from ubuntu > since the early days of upstart, due to its backward compatibility with sysV > scripts. That's a fair point, however in 18.04 and 20.04 there are no packages with "upstart" in the name either :( > Cheers, > > Aitor. -- A few words to be cautious of between American and English: - momentarily - suspenders - chips - pants - jelly - pavement - vest - pint (and gallon) - pissed Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?
Hi Antony, On 12/3/20 10:32 AM, Antony Stone wrote: I ask because I've looked at both Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04 systems, and I simply don't see the expected sysvinit packages available - I wonder if they've been eliminated entirely, rather than just not installed by default as Debian does. I don't know, but sysvinit may have been removed entirely from ubuntu since the early days of upstart, due to its backward compatibility with sysV scripts. Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?
Hi. Before I started using Devuan as my standard distribution, I was converting Debian systems from systemd to sysvinit (Jessie and Stretch), and for servers without a graphical desktop environment, this worked perfectly well. Does anyone know whether the same thing can be done starting from Ubuntu? I ask because I've looked at both Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04 systems, and I simply don't see the expected sysvinit packages available - I wonder if they've been eliminated entirely, rather than just not installed by default as Debian does. Any suggestions / guidance / pointers? Thanks, Antony. -- If I needed my own advice, I wouldn't give it to others. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
