Re: [DNG] Upcoming Kali Linux 2.0 - systemd?
Oh wow. I've used Kali for testing security on networking routers and firewalls myself. I hope they can switch out to Devuan also. Be a real shame to see them get plagued by systemd. Often at times I forget how many specialized distributions for R&D and testing are Debian based. From: Jaromil<mailto:jaro...@dyne.org> Sent: 7/21/2015 2:51 AM To: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org> Subject: [DNG] Upcoming Kali Linux 2.0 - systemd? dear list, I'm sure you heard of Kali, likely most people here still remembers Backtrack: there was a rename along the way. This is the most popular distro packed with penetration-testing and networking tools, Debian based. since a while they have been forced to switch to systemd as any other Debian derivative, now they are approaching a 2.0 release and of course have problems with systemd which will likely lead to some weaknesses in an otherwise pretty well hardened distro. See: https://bugs.kali.org/view.php?id=1871 for instance they are experiencing problems in avoiding daemons to start at boot. Has anyone here contacts with Kali? At Devuan we would be delighted to work with them to make it possible to have at least a systemd-free flavor of Kali so that users don't have to struggle with the avalanche and attack surface opened by it. Kali users are technical aware and have solid concerns about security, I think working together to have at least an alternative would be a win-win situation, as many Devuan developers are also Kali users and we wouldn't have to do all this work by ourselves then. It should be as easy as switching the source repository. ciao -- Jaromil, Dyne.org Software Foundry (est. 2000) We are free to share code and we code to share freedom Web: https://j.dyne.org Contact: https://j.dyne.org/c.vcf GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 Confidential communications: https://keybase.io/jaromil ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Upcoming Kali Linux 2.0 - systemd?
I know Raphaël Hertzog ( hert...@debian.org ) a french dev work with debian and kali. He also write debian handbook. Maybe he can help. Le 21/07/2015 11:51, Jaromil a écrit : > > dear list, > > I'm sure you heard of Kali, likely most people here still remembers > Backtrack: there was a rename along the way. This is the most popular > distro packed with penetration-testing and networking tools, Debian > based. > > since a while they have been forced to switch to systemd as any other > Debian derivative, now they are approaching a 2.0 release and of course > have problems with systemd which will likely lead to some weaknesses in > an otherwise pretty well hardened distro. > > See: https://bugs.kali.org/view.php?id=1871 for instance they are > experiencing problems in avoiding daemons to start at boot. > > Has anyone here contacts with Kali? At Devuan we would be delighted to > work with them to make it possible to have at least a systemd-free > flavor of Kali so that users don't have to struggle with the avalanche > and attack surface opened by it. Kali users are technical aware and have > solid concerns about security, I think working together to have at least > an alternative would be a win-win situation, as many Devuan developers > are also Kali users and we wouldn't have to do all this work by > ourselves then. It should be as easy as switching the source repository. > > ciao > > > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Upcoming Kali Linux 2.0 - systemd?
dear list, I'm sure you heard of Kali, likely most people here still remembers Backtrack: there was a rename along the way. This is the most popular distro packed with penetration-testing and networking tools, Debian based. since a while they have been forced to switch to systemd as any other Debian derivative, now they are approaching a 2.0 release and of course have problems with systemd which will likely lead to some weaknesses in an otherwise pretty well hardened distro. See: https://bugs.kali.org/view.php?id=1871 for instance they are experiencing problems in avoiding daemons to start at boot. Has anyone here contacts with Kali? At Devuan we would be delighted to work with them to make it possible to have at least a systemd-free flavor of Kali so that users don't have to struggle with the avalanche and attack surface opened by it. Kali users are technical aware and have solid concerns about security, I think working together to have at least an alternative would be a win-win situation, as many Devuan developers are also Kali users and we wouldn't have to do all this work by ourselves then. It should be as easy as switching the source repository. ciao -- Jaromil, Dyne.org Software Foundry (est. 2000) We are free to share code and we code to share freedom Web: https://j.dyne.org Contact: https://j.dyne.org/c.vcf GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 Confidential communications: https://keybase.io/jaromil signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
