Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd

2018-08-17 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018, Steve Litt wrote:

> > > 1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of
> > > many American VM vendors.
> > > 
> > > 2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no
> > >Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book
> > >length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM.  
> > 
> > 3) I would rather have my not so sensitive data stored at a Swiss
> > company than at an American one.
> 
> Is there a way to rent and administer one of their VMs anonymously?

I am sure you can ask them, it can be an interesting feature request
and they may simply make it available as an option (Tor/I2P access)

Thanks Lars for spotting Devuanhosting by Ungleich here! I confirm
these people are in touch with Devuan developers and willing to help.
Their success is also our success so I encourage everyone to consider
them as a hosting solution.

We are preparing for a Devuan conference in Amsterdam in November
(soon to be announced) and that will also be an occasion to meet the
people running this hosting in person. Here a great blogpost by Nico
who is leading their team and may be also reading here on DNG
https://blog.ungleich.ch/en-us/cms/blog/2017/12/10/the-importance-of-devuan/

ciao

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Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd

2018-08-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 18:41:52 +0200
Harald Arnesen  wrote:

> Steve Litt [2018-08-16 17:27]:
> 
> > 1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of
> > many American VM vendors.
> > 
> > 2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no
> >Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book
> >length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM.  
> 
> 3) I would rather have my not so sensitive data stored at a Swiss
> company than at an American one.

Is there a way to rent and administer one of their VMs anonymously?

SteveT

Steve Litt 
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Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd

2018-08-16 Thread Harald Arnesen
Steve Litt [2018-08-16 17:27]:

> 1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of many
>American VM vendors.
> 
> 2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no
>Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book
>length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM.

3) I would rather have my not so sensitive data stored at a Swiss
company than at an American one.
-- 
Hilsen Harald
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Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd

2018-08-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:50:53 +0300
Lars Noodén  wrote:

> There seems to now be a Swiss hosting provider specializing in Devuan
> hosting:
> 
>   "We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid
>   of systemd."
>   ...
>   "thanks to the developers of Devuan."
> 
>   https://devuanhosting.com/en-us/cms/
> 
> It is one of their featured selling points.
> 
> /Lars

A couple points:

1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of many
   American VM vendors.

2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no
   Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book
   length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that besides being systemd free, their
services are run by electricity produced by rivers or waterfalls. No
coal, no uranium.

I might get one of these things.

SteveT

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[DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd

2018-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén
There seems to now be a Swiss hosting provider specializing in Devuan
hosting:

"We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid
of systemd."
...
"thanks to the developers of Devuan."

https://devuanhosting.com/en-us/cms/

It is one of their featured selling points.

/Lars
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