Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
On 9/1/18 5:20 AM, J. Fahrner wrote:
Am 2018-09-01 14:10, schrieb fsmithred:
Right. There is no gksu in sid/ceres or buster/beowulf.
There is gksu in sid:
https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/gksu
root@jimmy-1:/home/jimmy# aptitude install gksu
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gconf-service{a} gconf2{a} gconf2-common{a} gcr{a} gksu
gnome-keyring{a} gnome-keyring-pkcs11{a}
libgck-1-0{a} libgconf-2-4{a} libgcr-base-3-1{a} libgcr-ui-3-1{a}
libgksu2-0{a}
libgnome-keyring-common{a} libgnome-keyring0{a} libgtop-2.0-10{a}
libgtop2-common{a}
libpam-gnome-keyring{a} libsecret-1-0{a} libsecret-common{a}
p11-kit{a} p11-kit-modules{a}
pinentry-gnome3{a}
0 packages upgraded, 22 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
On 09/01/2018 10:16 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 01/09/2018 à 14:10, fsmithred a écrit : >> Some apps have already replaced gksu with >> pkexec in stretch/ascii, and I wish that solution worked in all cases. >> There are plenty of posts from people who can't start synaptic from the >> menu, and I know of one case of someone (me) who can start synaptic from >> the menu and install packages without having to provide a password. > > You pointed the culprit: pkexec uses polycy-kit (for the sole > benefit of alowing to use it without a password). [snip] Last I checked, policy-kit was exceptionally complicated and difficult to configure. It was nothing that could be done casually. It also lacked most of the granularity of sudo. How much has it improved, if any, in recent years? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
Le 01/09/2018 à 14:10, fsmithred a écrit : Some apps have already replaced gksu with pkexec in stretch/ascii, and I wish that solution worked in all cases. There are plenty of posts from people who can't start synaptic from the menu, and I know of one case of someone (me) who can start synaptic from the menu and install packages without having to provide a password. You pointed the culprit: pkexec uses polycy-kit (for the sole benefit of alowing to use it without a password). gksu doesn't need policy-kit, this is obviously why it has been obsoleted by the kit fans. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
On 09/01/2018 05:54 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > Nope. Per your own link, it's neither in buster nor unstable. > > Here you have it more clearly visible: > https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gksu.html If I understand correctly gksu is not needed. Using sudo with -H or -i, but with or without -u, will take care of the $HOME issue for graphical applications. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 02:20:37PM +0200, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2018-09-01 14:10, schrieb fsmithred: > > Right. There is no gksu in sid/ceres or buster/beowulf. > > There is gksu in sid: > https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/gksu Nope. Per your own link, it's neither in buster nor unstable. Here you have it more clearly visible: https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gksu.html Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ What Would Jesus Do, MUD/MMORPG edition: ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ • multiplay with an admin char to benefit your mortal [Mt3:16-17] ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ • abuse item cloning bugs [Mt14:17-20, Mt15:34-37] ⠈⠳⣄ • use glitches to walk on water [Mt14:25-26] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
Am 2018-09-01 14:10, schrieb fsmithred: Right. There is no gksu in sid/ceres or buster/beowulf. There is gksu in sid: https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/gksu Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
On 08/31/2018 10:54 AM, Vittorio Beggi GMAIL wrote: > I have heard that on the next distros of Debian, the package "Gksu" wil be > deprecated and no more included among the installable packages. Right. There is no gksu in sid/ceres or buster/beowulf. The solution suggested in Ubuntu only works in Gnome. (example: gedit admin:///etc/default/grub). Some apps have already replaced gksu with pkexec in stretch/ascii, and I wish that solution worked in all cases. There are plenty of posts from people who can't start synaptic from the menu, and I know of one case of someone (me) who can start synaptic from the menu and install packages without having to provide a password. A more universal replacement that I've been using is: xterm -e su -c 'some-program' It looks like there are some other replacements, such as 'sux' in Arch and 'zensu' in Manjaro. I don't know anything about them. I suppose it's possible that gksu could survive if someone adopted or forked it and wanted to maintain it. fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?
I have heard that on the next distros of Debian, the package "Gksu" wil be deprecated and no more included among the installable packages. As a matter of fact the latest 18.10 of Ubuntu does no more allow the "apt-get install" of gksu. I would like to know if Devuan too will follow the same choices. That would be really disturbing because a great number of scripts use Gksu to gain privileges in order to perform securely some administrative task. Dropping a package without providing a suitable replacement can increment headaches among people struggling to keep wheels rolling... Dont' you think so ? -- Vittorio Beggi PHX di Beggi Vittorio via Cirenaica, 6 35141 Padova PD Tel/Fax: 049 8756276 Mobile: 340 4871253 mailto: vittorio.be...@gmail.com www.prontosoccorsopc.net ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
