Re: [DNG] Yunit
On Wednesday 20 September 2017 at 23:41:15, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2017 20 Sep 06:36 -0500, J. Fahrner wrote: > > Am 2017-09-20 13:08, schrieb Nate Bargmann: > > >I am still puzzled how a desktop GUI can depend on init system. > > >Services, yes, an init, not so much. > > > > Because systemd is not only an init system, it provides a lot of services > > too. > > I'll admit to not following its development the past couple of years or > longer. What services does it offer that aren't available through > stand-alone daemons besides logind and journalctl? https://www.linux.com/learn/understanding-and-using-systemd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ Antony. -- I own three Windows books, published by O'Reilly. They are "Windows Annoyances", "Office 97 Annoyances" and "Windows 98 Annoyances". That pretty much sums it up for me. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
* On 2017 20 Sep 06:36 -0500, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-09-20 13:08, schrieb Nate Bargmann: > > >I am still puzzled how a desktop GUI can depend on init system. > >Services, yes, an init, not so much. > > Because systemd is not only an init system, it provides a lot of services > too. I'll admit to not following its development the past couple of years or longer. What services does it offer that aren't available through stand-alone daemons besides logind and journalctl? - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
> On 20 Sep 2017, at 21:08, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2017 20 Sep 04:01 -0500, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> ..these https://forum.yunit.io/search.php?keywords=systemd >> and https://yunit.io/?s=systemd would if anything, suggest >> "systemd is not a worry here.", which might mean they might >> be or become agnostic on init systems. > > I read the forum post link as though the developer will have it > completely supporting (depending on?) systemd. Perhaps if we let the developers know there are users wanting it in Devuan sans systemd, they might reconsider that approach? I will setup an ASCII test box sometime this week or next to try it out, as the Debian packages appear to be only for stable onwards. —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
Le 20/09/2017 à 13:08, Nate Bargmann a écrit : I am still puzzled how a desktop GUI can depend on init system. Services, yes, an init, not so much. Excellent argument to oppose to those peole still claiming Systemd is an init system. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:08:46 -0500, Nate wrote in message <20170920110846.ge3...@n0nb.us>: > * On 2017 20 Sep 04:01 -0500, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..these https://forum.yunit.io/search.php?keywords=systemd > > and https://yunit.io/?s=systemd would if anything, suggest > > "systemd is not a worry here.", which might mean they might > > be or become agnostic on init systems. > > I read the forum post link as though the developer will have it > completely supporting ..it would need that to be agnostic. > (depending on?) systemd. ..on reflection, I think you're right, right there. > The second link returns nothing found for me. > > I am still puzzled how a desktop GUI can depend on init system. > Services, yes, an init, not so much. ..systemd is an init system in about the same way the KKK are "nice people on both sides." ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
Am 2017-09-20 13:08, schrieb Nate Bargmann: I am still puzzled how a desktop GUI can depend on init system. Services, yes, an init, not so much. Because systemd is not only an init system, it provides a lot of services too. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
* On 2017 20 Sep 04:01 -0500, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..these https://forum.yunit.io/search.php?keywords=systemd > and https://yunit.io/?s=systemd would if anything, suggest > "systemd is not a worry here.", which might mean they might > be or become agnostic on init systems. I read the forum post link as though the developer will have it completely supporting (depending on?) systemd. The second link returns nothing found for me. I am still puzzled how a desktop GUI can depend on init system. Services, yes, an init, not so much. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
> ..these https://forum.yunit.io/search.php?keywords=systemd > and https://yunit.io/?s=systemd would if anything, suggest > "systemd is not a worry here.", which might mean they might > be or become agnostic on init systems. That doesn’t surprise me, considering Ubuntu was using Unity for a long time before systemd appeared on the scene. —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Yunit
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:44:35 +1000, Tom wrote in message <97dde69e-3904-4abe-9acf-7fa2f104b...@gmail.com>: > Has anyone tried out Yunit on Devuan? It’s a community fork of the > Unity 8 code that was abandoned after Ubuntu switched to Gnome for > their next release. > > https://yunit.io/ > > https://yunit.io/yunit-packages-for-debian-stable-testing-and-unstable/ > > —Tom ..these https://forum.yunit.io/search.php?keywords=systemd and https://yunit.io/?s=systemd would if anything, suggest "systemd is not a worry here.", which might mean they might be or become agnostic on init systems. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Yunit
Has anyone tried out Yunit on Devuan? It’s a community fork of the Unity 8 code that was abandoned after Ubuntu switched to Gnome for their next release. https://yunit.io/ https://yunit.io/yunit-packages-for-debian-stable-testing-and-unstable/ —Tom___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
