Re: [DNG] basilisk browser hangs
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 09:24:10AM +0200, Antonio A. Rendina via Dng wrote: > On 06/09/21 21:48, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 06:35:00PM +0200, al3xu5 wrote: > > > Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:00:52 -0400 - Haines Brown : > > > > > > > I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently > > > > it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and > > > > eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. > Did you try to check operating system resources when the problem happens? > What the system is doing? How is the cpu, memory, drive, network? I tied the tests except drive (don't know what you meant by this) and network (no problem with it). I finally got a permanent hang of both keyboard and mouse which forced a dirth reboot. I eliminated basilisk and have been running smoootyly ever since. I suspect the problem had something to do with javascript and turbo download manager. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] basilisk browser hangs
On 06/09/21 21:48, Haines Brown wrote: On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 06:35:00PM +0200, al3xu5 wrote: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:00:52 -0400 - Haines Brown : I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. Hi Haines It seems to me that you are assuming that the problem is linked to the system software environment, but this does not seem to be proven. First of all: have you tried using other browser than Basilisk? Same hanging with Firefox etc.? Yes. I run Firefox ESR as well and it does not see to have problems. Not sure what this implies about TSL certificates. I don't know if Basilisk has some developer tools like Firefox or Chrome (in Firefox-like browsers it is at the >Tools>Web Developer>Network menu or Ctrl+Shist+E). If Basilisk has this kind of tools, then you can use it to check if the freezes during the loading of the pages is due to network-related problems, even identifying the specific cause. That I tend to remove the memu keeps me from exploring its possiblities. I ran Network when accessing an eBay operation, and don't know how to interpret the result. One thing is that loading a gif image under show_ads.js tool took 163095650171... ms (ran out of space to display following numbers). But its status code is green OK. The x-xss-protection "1; mode=block" Request headers (3.157 KB) No idea how to interpret all this. My AdBlock Latitude is disabled. Did you try to check operating system resources when the problem happens? What the system is doing? How is the cpu, memory, drive, network? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] basilisk browser hangs
On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 06:35:00PM +0200, al3xu5 wrote: > Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:00:52 -0400 - Haines Brown : > > > I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently > > it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and > > eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. > Hi Haines > > It seems to me that you are assuming that the problem is linked to the > system software environment, but this does not seem to be proven. > > First of all: have you tried using other browser than Basilisk? Same > hanging with Firefox etc.? Yes. I run Firefox ESR as well and it does not see to have problems. Not sure what this implies about TSL certificates. > I don't know if Basilisk has some developer tools like Firefox or Chrome > (in Firefox-like browsers it is at the >Tools>Web Developer>Network menu or > Ctrl+Shist+E). > If Basilisk has this kind of tools, then you can use it to check if the > freezes during the loading of the pages is due to network-related > problems, even identifying the specific cause. That I tend to remove the memu keeps me from exploring its possiblities. I ran Network when accessing an eBay operation, and don't know how to interpret the result. One thing is that loading a gif image under show_ads.js tool took 163095650171... ms (ran out of space to display following numbers). But its status code is green OK. The x-xss-protection "1; mode=block" Request headers (3.157 KB) No idea how to interpret all this. My AdBlock Latitude is disabled. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] basilisk browser hangs
Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:00:52 -0400 - Haines Brown : > I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently > it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and > eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. > > When I look at Basilisk's requirements I'm left unsure whether beowuld > is up to them. It requires a 64-bit distribution, 1 Gb RAM, GTK+ 3.4 > or hightr, GLib 2.22 or higher, Pango 1.14 or higher, X.Org 1.0 or > higher (1.7 or higher recommended), lbstdc++ 4.61 or higher. > > Not sure but I suspect beowulf is runing GTK 3.0.0, and pango 1.0, > etc. If so, it may be that the hangs are because my software is a bit > dated. I tried clearing cache but it had no obvious effect. Hi Haines It seems to me that you are assuming that the problem is linked to the system software environment, but this does not seem to be proven. First of all: have you tried using other browser than Basilisk? Same hanging with Firefox etc.? Another pont. For my experience, in recent times, this type of slowdown could also be due to problems with TSL certificates. This happens mostly with "major" sites (I.E. Google, Amazon etc.) that adopt more strict requirements (TLS 1.3) before and more than others; and it may occurs where there is an outdated proxy server or appliance, as often is in many organizations. I don't know if Basilisk has some developer tools like Firefox or Chrome (in Firefox-like browsers it is at the >Tools>Web Developer>Network menu or Ctrl+Shist+E). If Basilisk has this kind of tools, then you can use it to check if the freezes during the loading of the pages is due to network-related problems, even identifying the specific cause. > Would an upgrade to cimaera likely remove the hangs? I've done it on a > couple systems without a problem, but not my production system. Regards al3xu5 -- Say NO to copyright, patents, trademarks and industrial design restrictions! Public GPG/PGP key: 8FC2 3121 2803 86E9 F7D8 B624 DA50 835B 2624 A36B pgpUeClzrpSMe.pgp Description: Firma digitale OpenPGP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] basilisk browser hangs
I've happily run the basilisk browser for a couple years, but recently it bagan to hang. On sites that are more demanding such as Amazon and eBay. When I do things there's a hang that lasts perhaps a minute. When I look at Basilisk's requirements I'm left unsure whether beowuld is up to them. It requires a 64-bit distribution, 1 Gb RAM, GTK+ 3.4 or hightr, GLib 2.22 or higher, Pango 1.14 or higher, X.Org 1.0 or higher (1.7 or higher recommended), lbstdc++ 4.61 or higher. Not sure but I suspect beowulf is runing GTK 3.0.0, and pango 1.0, etc. If so, it may be that the hangs are because my software is a bit dated. I tried clearing cache but it had no obvious effect. Would an upgrade to cimaera likely remove the hangs? I've done it on a couple systems without a problem, but not my production system. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
