Re: [DNG] consolekit2

[Andreas Messer]

On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 08:46:03PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote:
> Do we need consolekit2 packaged?

I think yes. consolekit (without 2) seems to have issues with
ck-lauch-session in combination with displaymanagers like sddm. This was
actually the reason for me to package elogind in the hope it will work 
better with sddm. But in order for elogind tobe useful, other packages
need to be adjusted (udisks...)
These issues seem to be fixed in consolekit2.

cheers,
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[DNG] consolekit2

[Hleb Valoshka]

Do we need consolekit2 packaged?

I've spent a few hours to make initial packaging and installed it
instead of old consolekit. So far so good, I'm able suspend my pc and
mount usb drives from Thunar.

If dev1 needs it I can afford a bit more time to polish it and prepare
for uploading.
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Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:53:34 +
David Hare  wrote:

> Apparently due to the systemd agenda of it's original maintainers,
> ConsoleKit is "deprecated".
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2012-January/msg2.html
> 
> Consolekit2 is forked and actively maintained by XFCE4 maintainer
> Eric Koegel.
> 
> https://consolekit2.github.io/ConsoleKit2/
> 
> It works. Consolekit2 has been successfully deb-packaged and used here
> (since even before Devuan) up to the latest "stable release" (1.0.2).
> 
> Is anyone interested?

Am I to understand that this is a consolekit implementation that is
init system agnostic? If so, it's a very good thing.

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

[Adam Borowski]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 01:18:51PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/consolekit/2012-January/000157.html
> [ConsoleKit] Impact of ConsoleKit deprecation
> Lennart Poettering mztabzr at 0pointer.de
> Thu Jan 26 18:26:22 PST 2012
> 
>   Ubuntu plans to take over maintainership (more precisely Martin Pitt
>   from Canonical), to maintain it as long as they still need it, and
>   will change the name while doing so.

Ubuntu has long since switched to init-blob-that-lets-leave-unnamed, so that
note is only of historical interest.

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Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

[Alessandro Selli]

Il giorno Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:23:02 +0100
Arnt Karlsen  ha scritto:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:53:34 +, David wrote in message 
> :

[...]

> > It works. Consolekit2 has been successfully deb-packaged and used here
> > (since even before Devuan) up to the latest "stable release" (1.0.2).
> 
> ..which distro?

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/consolekit/2012-January/000157.html
[ConsoleKit] Impact of ConsoleKit deprecation
Lennart Poettering mztabzr at 0pointer.de
Thu Jan 26 18:26:22 PST 2012

Ubuntu plans to take over maintainership (more precisely Martin Pitt
from Canonical), to maintain it as long as they still need it, and
will change the name while doing so.



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Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:53:34 +, David wrote in message 
:

> Apparently due to the systemd agenda of it's original maintainers,
> ConsoleKit is "deprecated".
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2012-January/msg2.html

...alleges: "Now, one distribution expressed interested in maintaining
ConsoleKit, but under a different name. It will still use the same API
(dbus name, etc). However, their interest is likely solely focussed
around their distribution and not anything else."

..this name?:
> Consolekit2 is forked and actively maintained by XFCE4 maintainer
> Eric Koegel.
> 
> https://consolekit2.github.io/ConsoleKit2/
> 
> It works. Consolekit2 has been successfully deb-packaged and used here
> (since even before Devuan) up to the latest "stable release" (1.0.2).

..which distro?

> Is anyone interested?
> 
> David



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Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

[Adam Borowski]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 01:53:34AM +, David Hare wrote:
> Consolekit2 is forked and actively maintained by XFCE4 maintainer Eric Koegel.
> 
> https://consolekit2.github.io/ConsoleKit2/
> 
> It works. Consolekit2 has been successfully deb-packaged and used here
> (since even before Devuan) up to the latest "stable release" (1.0.2).

The alternatives are:
* systemd-shim: allowing @#$%^&* to run when not as pid1, currently in
  Debian, reported to have recently broken, was always broken for me
* consolekit: dead upstream and unmaintained for ages, rebuilding against it
  _mostly_ works but will degrade soon; I do so in my repository
* loginkit: a clean implementation from scratch, sadly vapourware
* elogind: carving a piece of the blob; apparently unmaintained for a while
* consolekit2: not that active (~1 commit/month, last in Nov) but still
  seems the most alive one

I don't know of any recent packaging of CK2, newest I found is from Dec 2014.

As around 25394753978 pieces of software now come with a hard dependency on
logind, I guess providing them with an implementation should be far less
work than trying to do without.


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Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

[Daniel Reurich]

Hi David,

Can you point to the packaging sources?

We'd certainly be keen to include it in Devuan if that's possible.

Thanks for the heads up

Regards,
Daniel.

On 11/01/17 14:53, David Hare wrote:
> Apparently due to the systemd agenda of it's original maintainers,
> ConsoleKit is "deprecated".
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2012-January/msg2.html
> 
> Consolekit2 is forked and actively maintained by XFCE4 maintainer Eric Koegel.
> 
> https://consolekit2.github.io/ConsoleKit2/
> 
> It works. Consolekit2 has been successfully deb-packaged and used here
> (since even before Devuan) up to the latest "stable release" (1.0.2).
> 
> Is anyone interested?
> 
> David
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[DNG] ConsoleKit2

[David Hare]

Apparently due to the systemd agenda of it's original maintainers,
ConsoleKit is "deprecated".

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2012-January/msg2.html

Consolekit2 is forked and actively maintained by XFCE4 maintainer Eric Koegel.

https://consolekit2.github.io/ConsoleKit2/

It works. Consolekit2 has been successfully deb-packaged and used here
(since even before Devuan) up to the latest "stable release" (1.0.2).

Is anyone interested?

David
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[Dng] Consolekit2

[Aaditya Bagga]

Hi,

I am not sure if you guys are aware or not, but Consolekit2 is the 
original endeavor of Eric Koegel I believe [1], yet I see no mention of 
his name on the Devuan December 22 newsletter [2] under the Research - 
Consolekit heading.


I am not affiliated to Consolekit2 in any way, just wanted to mentioned 
this from a fairness POV.


Regards,
Aaditya

References-
[1]: https://github.com/ConsoleKit2/ConsoleKit2/
[2]: https://devuan.org/newsletter_22dec.html

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