Re: [DNG] devuan-sdk

2016-05-12 Thread . fsmithred
Yes, I'd like to help. How do I get up to speed on the sdk?

Note: I'm probably going to be slow in responding, because I'm away from
home this week, and using a web browser for email makes me want to kill
someone. But I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you.

-fsr


On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Ozi Traveller 
wrote:

> Thanks you Jaromil, I appreciate your effort in the sdk and devuan as a
> whole!
>
> I have see Parazyd's work in advancing the sdk and applaud his efforts
> too!
>
> As part of the refactored buildpackage process, will it be possible to
> bring packages from upstream to stable backports, e.g i3, spacefm, ...?
>
> Ozi
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Jaromil  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Ozi Traveller wrote:
>>
>> >I did a an install and setup up last night in a vm, and I need to
>> install
>> >a couple of packages that weren't in the instructions: git-core, zsh.
>>
>> ACK. will add those
>>
>> >I managed to get sdk-init to work, after some fiddling.
>> >
>> >I did sdk-chroot-arch amd64 which looked successful, but
>> sdk-chroot-build
>> >failed with errors.
>>
>> I know this part is currently under re-factoring because many things
>> have changed in the past 2 years. This SDK was useful to completely
>> bootstrap Devuan at a time in which our repositories did not
>> exist. Now the situation is far better and I plan to drop some code
>> and functionalities to have a more lean and modular system.
>>
>> in particular the package building part should be refactored to work
>> with git-buildpackage, to optionally import debian packages from
>> alioth and then finally to offer a local repository of built packages
>> for the chroot.
>>
>> I'm planning to do this in the coming months, but cannot provide an
>> exact schedule.
>>
>> >It would be good, if there was someone who has this working to do a
>> step
>> >by step to do the setup. Also to do a build too, because the
>> instructions
>> >aren't clear.
>>
>> you are welcome to propose corrections wherever you think they should
>> be. With exception for the package building part which has to be
>> rewritten.
>>
>> >If devuan-sdk is the way forward for creating an iso, then I'd like
>> to
>> >understand it better.
>>
>> it is one of the ways forward and is provided for people wanting to
>> prepare custom isos with custom packages. Please note we have
>> modularised the whole setup so now there is:
>>
>> - devuan-sdk : local chroot and package build (TODO refactor)
>> - vm-sdk : takes any iso (also devuan-sdk) and build various VM images
>> - arm-sdk : takes any iso (also devuan-sdk) and build various ARM images
>>
>> >In terms of features, will the sdk replace live-build at some stage?
>>
>> I think that will be another module, live-sdk, and will likely be
>> built on top of refracta scripts. Parazyd is investigating this now
>> and proposing to fsmithred some changes to enhance interoperability
>> with our setup, lets see how that goes. I'd like to have fsmithred
>> included in our team to maintain it, but maybe he doesn't want to get
>> involved that much.
>>
>> ciao
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Re: [DNG] devuan-sdk

2016-05-11 Thread Ozi Traveller
Thanks you Jaromil, I appreciate your effort in the sdk and devuan as a
whole!

I have see Parazyd's work in advancing the sdk and applaud his efforts too!

As part of the refactored buildpackage process, will it be possible to
bring packages from upstream to stable backports, e.g i3, spacefm, ...?

Ozi



On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Jaromil  wrote:

> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Ozi Traveller wrote:
>
> >I did a an install and setup up last night in a vm, and I need to
> install
> >a couple of packages that weren't in the instructions: git-core, zsh.
>
> ACK. will add those
>
> >I managed to get sdk-init to work, after some fiddling.
> >
> >I did sdk-chroot-arch amd64 which looked successful, but
> sdk-chroot-build
> >failed with errors.
>
> I know this part is currently under re-factoring because many things
> have changed in the past 2 years. This SDK was useful to completely
> bootstrap Devuan at a time in which our repositories did not
> exist. Now the situation is far better and I plan to drop some code
> and functionalities to have a more lean and modular system.
>
> in particular the package building part should be refactored to work
> with git-buildpackage, to optionally import debian packages from
> alioth and then finally to offer a local repository of built packages
> for the chroot.
>
> I'm planning to do this in the coming months, but cannot provide an
> exact schedule.
>
> >It would be good, if there was someone who has this working to do a
> step
> >by step to do the setup. Also to do a build too, because the
> instructions
> >aren't clear.
>
> you are welcome to propose corrections wherever you think they should
> be. With exception for the package building part which has to be
> rewritten.
>
> >If devuan-sdk is the way forward for creating an iso, then I'd like to
> >understand it better.
>
> it is one of the ways forward and is provided for people wanting to
> prepare custom isos with custom packages. Please note we have
> modularised the whole setup so now there is:
>
> - devuan-sdk : local chroot and package build (TODO refactor)
> - vm-sdk : takes any iso (also devuan-sdk) and build various VM images
> - arm-sdk : takes any iso (also devuan-sdk) and build various ARM images
>
> >In terms of features, will the sdk replace live-build at some stage?
>
> I think that will be another module, live-sdk, and will likely be
> built on top of refracta scripts. Parazyd is investigating this now
> and proposing to fsmithred some changes to enhance interoperability
> with our setup, lets see how that goes. I'd like to have fsmithred
> included in our team to maintain it, but maybe he doesn't want to get
> involved that much.
>
> ciao
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Re: [DNG] devuan-sdk

2016-05-10 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Ozi Traveller wrote:

>I did a an install and setup up last night in a vm, and I need to install
>a couple of packages that weren't in the instructions: git-core, zsh.

ACK. will add those

>I managed to get sdk-init to work, after some fiddling.
> 
>I did sdk-chroot-arch amd64 which looked successful, but sdk-chroot-build
>failed with errors.

I know this part is currently under re-factoring because many things
have changed in the past 2 years. This SDK was useful to completely
bootstrap Devuan at a time in which our repositories did not
exist. Now the situation is far better and I plan to drop some code
and functionalities to have a more lean and modular system.

in particular the package building part should be refactored to work
with git-buildpackage, to optionally import debian packages from
alioth and then finally to offer a local repository of built packages
for the chroot.

I'm planning to do this in the coming months, but cannot provide an
exact schedule.

>It would be good, if there was someone who has this working to do a step
>by step to do the setup. Also to do a build too, because the instructions
>aren't clear.

you are welcome to propose corrections wherever you think they should
be. With exception for the package building part which has to be
rewritten.

>If devuan-sdk is the way forward for creating an iso, then I'd like to
>understand it better.

it is one of the ways forward and is provided for people wanting to
prepare custom isos with custom packages. Please note we have
modularised the whole setup so now there is:

- devuan-sdk : local chroot and package build (TODO refactor)
- vm-sdk : takes any iso (also devuan-sdk) and build various VM images
- arm-sdk : takes any iso (also devuan-sdk) and build various ARM images

>In terms of features, will the sdk replace live-build at some stage?

I think that will be another module, live-sdk, and will likely be
built on top of refracta scripts. Parazyd is investigating this now
and proposing to fsmithred some changes to enhance interoperability
with our setup, lets see how that goes. I'd like to have fsmithred
included in our team to maintain it, but maybe he doesn't want to get
involved that much.

ciao
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[DNG] devuan-sdk

2016-05-10 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi

I did a an install and setup up last night in a vm, and I need to install a
couple of packages that weren't in the instructions: git-core, zsh.

I managed to get sdk-init to work, after some fiddling.

I did sdk-chroot-arch amd64 which looked successful, but sdk-chroot-build
failed with errors.

It would be good, if there was someone who has this working to do a step by
step to do the setup. Also to do a build too, because the instructions
aren't clear.

If devuan-sdk is the way forward for creating an iso, then I'd like to
understand it better.

In terms of features, will the sdk replace live-build at some stage?

Cheers
Ozi
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