Re: [DNG] devuan installer main menu access
Boruch Baumwrites: [...] > 4] The third set of downloads, for the additional system components, > should have been the easy lift. What I did was deselect the options for > a desktop and for a print server, expecting the system to want to > download ~273 files, as it did on prior tests. At that point, I tried > doing what I had no problem doing for the prior two stages - return to > the main install menu, and open up a shell. I tabbed to 'go back', > pressed 'enter', but the installer began downloading packages instead of > presenting the main menu, and indicated that it would download 1173 > packages instead of 273. It's been a long time since I used that but you should have a shell available on the 2nd VT. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] devuan installer main menu access
On 03/29/2016 12:33 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 06:30:42PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: >> 4.1] Was it a case of 'fat-fingerng'? I don't think so, but it's >> asking a lot to attempt to re-create this because with slow >> bandwidth, each install attempt takes a long time to get to this >> stage. Today's connection was especially slow. This has been the >> only time and point in the install process that I've had a problem >> returning to the main menu, so it might have been an errant >> keystroke, but I think I was being careful. > > You had previously indicated you have other debian/devuan boxes on > your network. Did not. Don't. > Is there any reason why you can't install apt-cacher-ng on one of > them? See above. > You could then experiment with as many install attempts as you > want without having to download the same packages all over again. What I did write in the past, in response to Adam Borowski's identical suggestion, was that its asking a lot of a potential contributor to require multiple machines, a network, and the additional software, for something that could easily have been solved by either: 1] not being stingy on the initial download, ie. offering a full iso instead of a netboot, or 2] having the netboot installer also refer to a local cache. Also, how many other linux distributions make that kind of request? I'll mention one solution I didn't offer before because its performance might not be as fast - use the extra space on the install medium. -IF- the install medium is a new-ish USB stick, then it likely has a capacity of 8/16/32 GB, and if the target is USB3-equipped, then the transfer speeds should be good. The installer already sets up a small writable FIRMWARE partition on the install media, so this additional suggestion would be to not let the rest of the install media go to waste - use it as a local cache. -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] devuan installer main menu access
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 06:30:42PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > 4.1] Was it a case of 'fat-fingerng'? I don't think so, but it's asking > a lot to attempt to re-create this because with slow bandwidth, each > install attempt takes a long time to get to this stage. Today's > connection was especially slow. This has been the only time and point in > the install process that I've had a problem returning to the main menu, > so it might have been an errant keystroke, but I think I was being careful. You had previously indicated you have other debian/devuan boxes on your network. Is there any reason why you can't install apt-cacher-ng on one of them? You could then experiment with as many install attempts as you want without having to download the same packages all over again. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] devuan installer main menu access
Short version: From the screen that lets the user select specific system components to install, eg. XFCE, print server, SSH server, when I tabbed to the selection "go back" with the intention of getting the main menu, what happened instead was the installer began downloading "1173 packages". The only way I could figure to stop was to M-C-del, producing a SIGTERM which rebooted. Expanded version: 1] As a follow-up to a comment I made last week about saving downloaded components for future installs (saving bandwidth/time), I've been experimenting with how a user could re-use components using the ash shell that's available with the net installer. 2] The first set of downloads, for the installer's own components, seem to be deleted immediately upon their install. I was not able to retrieve them for re-use from ash. FAILURE 3] The second set of downloads, for the linux base system, may have been left on the target, but in advance of that download step, the debian install commands with which I am familiar were not available. I had archived deb files available to the installer and to the target, but got stuck at trying to perform something like 'apt-get update' to let the installer know they were there. FAILURE 4] The third set of downloads, for the additional system components, should have been the easy lift. What I did was deselect the options for a desktop and for a print server, expecting the system to want to download ~273 files, as it did on prior tests. At that point, I tried doing what I had no problem doing for the prior two stages - return to the main install menu, and open up a shell. I tabbed to 'go back', pressed 'enter', but the installer began downloading packages instead of presenting the main menu, and indicated that it would download 1173 packages instead of 273. 4.1] Was it a case of 'fat-fingerng'? I don't think so, but it's asking a lot to attempt to re-create this because with slow bandwidth, each install attempt takes a long time to get to this stage. Today's connection was especially slow. This has been the only time and point in the install process that I've had a problem returning to the main menu, so it might have been an errant keystroke, but I think I was being careful. 4.2] It would be nice to have had a less destructive method of aborting the download than to reboot. -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng