Re: [DNG] grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
I changed the subject because it's the (still) hot freshly known 
spectre-meltdown
security issue [1] that regards the entire Devuan OS's (as any other OSes)
reliability (but my side of the interest/desire lies mostly in getting the
necessary mitigations into the grsecunoff kernel) 

On 180204-00:05+, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> On 180203-23:35+, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> ...
> > But I don't have the toolchain to support retpoline. Namely, the first 
> > thing at the onset of:
> > 
> > fakeroot make deb-pkg
> > 
> ...
> > arch/x86/Makefile:191: CONFIG_RETPOLINE=y, but not supported by the 
> > compiler. Toolchain update recommended.
> > 
> > Anybody already had this kind of issue, and has a few quick tips to tell on 
> > how to update the toolchain (or other necessary details)?
> 
> I found:
> https://gitlab.com/jimdigriz/linux/commit/b8b9ce4b5aec8de9e23cabb0a26b78641f9ab1d6
> and it appears that it's fine to compile it disregarding that warning.
> 
> (And I'll offer retpoline-patched 4.9.74 on 
> https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/gnu/deb/linux-deb-grsec-current/ by tomorrow, I 
> hope.)
which I did, and in the link I gave there there's more talk, and also can be 
seen
how linux-image-4.14.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 and my 4.9.74-unofficial+grsec180204-21
compare:

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/7559858/35819129-bb65a63c-0a99-11e8-804a-caa9f6cc1719.png
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/7559858/35819137-c3195090-0a99-11e8-81de-d560c4723857.png

all of which is in comment:
Spectre mitigation (retpoline) #26 
https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec/issues/26#issuecomment-363157180

Meltdown support for grsecunoff is being developed and is at an unknown stage, 
In
comment of Jan 9 2018:
KPTI backport conflicts #25 
https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec/issues/25#issuecomment-355921197
minipli wrote:
> Expect it to be weeks/months/never. It's a pretty invasive change
> conflicting with a lot of PaX.

I'm betting minipli *will* make it... He's currently the best hope for what
remained of grsec.
(
There's been, and still is, an attempt to develop the entire hardened-kernel,
without the GNU/Linux kernel continuing to be under the whims of who regards
security bugs like any other bugs, along with, after spender and PaX Team
left --unable to tollerate any more the ripoff of their code by Google--,
[along with] security being basically under total control of the already
mentioned, and just repeated the name of, unofficial world's top spy firm.
[There's been, and still is, an attempt to develop the entire
hardened-kernel,] separately, organizationally ab ovo, at:
https://github.com/copperhead/linux-hardened
if I understand correctly, but as here stated:
https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec/issues/25#issuecomment-358370154
> not enough people actually were interested
)

Questions for anybody that can tell more on the issues are, on my part,
primarily:
How come I couldn't get the amd64-microcode for my machines, as I presented in
the screencast of specter-meltdown-checker.sh and in comments of today in issue
#26 linked above?

Another question is: I tried, but couldn't get amd64-microcode in Devuan, by
apt-get, version 3.20171205.1, and so I got it from Debian (where it is the
current offer):
https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64-microcode
Did I misconf'd something or is it not available in Devuan. Also, it didn't
work for my machines (explained in that minipli issue above), any idea why,
or where to look for reasons?

And more there will/would be to ask, and maybe to test (as I'm not really a dev,
but can follow and test, mostly), time and strength permitting.

Regards!

---
 [1] but existing and extremely likely known to exploit- writers and users 
months
before it was discovered by the Austrian guys mid-2017 (and taken credit of
over by the world's top commercial unofficial spy agency the Schmoog, just
like they took credit for the Heartbleed, as if they discovered both those
vuln issues, and instead they had only, in both cases, spied on people who
were discovering it, to be able to apportion half of the credit to
themselves: I could almost bet on this hypothesis anything you want... it's
so terribly very likely the truth of it!

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Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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Re: [DNG] grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-03 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 180203-23:35+, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
...
> But I don't have the toolchain to support retpoline. Namely, the first thing 
> at the onset of:
> 
> fakeroot make deb-pkg
> 
...
> arch/x86/Makefile:191: CONFIG_RETPOLINE=y, but not supported by the compiler. 
> Toolchain update recommended.
> 
> Anybody already had this kind of issue, and has a few quick tips to tell on 
> how to update the toolchain (or other necessary details)?

I found:
https://gitlab.com/jimdigriz/linux/commit/b8b9ce4b5aec8de9e23cabb0a26b78641f9ab1d6
and it appears that it's fine to compile it disregarding that warning.

(And I'll offer retpoline-patched 4.9.74 on 
https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/gnu/deb/linux-deb-grsec-current/ by tomorrow, I 
hope.)

Regards!

-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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[DNG] grsecunoff retpoline patch, toolchain update needed

2018-02-03 Thread Miroslav Rovis
I'm trying to compile grsecunoff [1], and I've additionally patched 4.9.74 
kernel with HackKurx's retpoline patch [2].
Patching goes fine (spoon-feeding howto can be found in my script [3]).

But I don't have the toolchain to support retpoline. Namely, the first thing at 
the onset of:

fakeroot make deb-pkg

(from my script), I get this exact line:

arch/x86/Makefile:191: CONFIG_RETPOLINE=y, but not supported by the compiler. 
Toolchain update recommended.

Anybody already had this kind of issue, and has a few quick tips to tell on how 
to update the toolchain (or other necessary details)?

For AMD machines (which I run), to get probably good security again in this 
post-meltdown-and-spectre era, the main part is retpoline support, which the 
patch for 4.9.74 grsecunoff has just been published today --author does not 
claim it to be perfect [4]-- meltdown posing no threat for AMD.

(And microcode? Any tips on that?)...

Regards!

---
[1] https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec
[2] 
https://github.com/HacKurx/public-sharing/blob/master/retpoline_for_unofficial_grsec-4.9.74.patch
[3] https://github.com/miroR/grsec-dev1-compile
[4] 
https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec/issues/26#issuecomment-362809911
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Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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