Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
On 2022-07-28 06:05, Stefan Krusche wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2022 schrieb Ludovic Bellière: DNG is definitively sending emails, however some host will silently filter out emails without telling you why. I'd suggest either contacting your host Thanks. That's what I've been speculating, too. But I think my provider is ok. They call themselves "political provider" and it's a paid service. However, contacting them may be the way to go. Kind regards, Stefan Yes, Dyne email is currently messed up but not a peep out of Dyne. Trying to sort what is going on . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Am Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2022 schrieb Ludovic Bellière: > DNG is definitively sending emails, however some host will silently > filter out emails without telling you why. I'd suggest either > contacting your host Thanks. That's what I've been speculating, too. But I think my provider is ok. They call themselves "political provider" and it's a paid service. However, contacting them may be the way to go. Kind regards, Stefan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
On Thursday 28 July 2022 at 12:41:35, marc wrote: > > I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host > > lists.dyne.org > > Or more precisely, 162.19.139.95 which claims to be sending mail > as lists.dyne.org - at least to me > > Perhaps this is a live server migration/restore/update ? Indeed - the earliest email I see coming from that address is Tue Jul 19 11:26:02 CEST 2022 Before then, they were coming from mail.dyne.org [141.95.83.167] Antony. -- I don't know, maybe if we all waited then cosmic rays would write all our software for us. Of course it might take a while. - Ron Minnich, Los Alamos National Laboratory Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
> I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host > lists.dyne.org Or more precisely, 162.19.139.95 which claims to be sending mail as lists.dyne.org - at least to me Perhaps this is a live server migration/restore/update ? regards marc ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
> Hello list, Hiya > Can confirm on my end too, apparently a meeble.net is now involved. That, or I > no longer understand emails anymore. Meeble is Marjorie's domain, and message-ids and in-reply-tos often contain domain names I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host lists.dyne.org regards marc ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hi Ludovik, On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 11:44 +0200, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > Hello list, > > Can confirm on my end too, apparently a meeble.net is now involved. > That, or I no longer understand emails anymore. > > Authentication-Results: mx201.skynet.be; spf=None > smtp.pra=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; > spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; spf=None > smtp.helo=postmas...@mail.dyne.org; dkim=hardfail (body hash > did not verify > [final]) header.i=@meeble.net > No I think there is an issue with the DKIM authentication on the DNG mail server and it's affecting not just Stefan and myself. It's not affecting emails that are copied directly to me (which is why I thought Marc's reply was clear). On various list emails from the list my RSPAMD log is showing: R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [proximus.be:s=rmail] R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [meeble.net:s=202002] R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [gregn.net:s=default] R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [gmail.com:s=20210112] the bit in brackets depends on the sender to list. I'm pretty sure that gmail, for example, wouldn't be throwing an issue at their end. On my mail server this authentication failure simply increments the spam score by 1, not sufficient to put it into spam or to reject outright. On Stefan's server, which seems to be stricter on DKIM it leads to a rejection and him not seeing DNG emails. NB. My first reply attempt to list used an alternative email address (marjo...@meeble.net) at my end, which no doubt would have been correctly rejected by the DNG server. -- Marjorie > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > > > Hi Sterfan, > > > > Spoke too soon. I'm getting it on my reply too: > > > > Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature > > verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) > > header.d=meeble.net > > header.i=@meeble.net header.b="K9Pp04F0"; dkim-atps=neutral > > > > > > > > Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too > > > strict. > > > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hello list, Can confirm on my end too, apparently a meeble.net is now involved. That, or I no longer understand emails anymore. Authentication-Results: mx201.skynet.be; spf=None smtp.pra=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; spf=None smtp.helo=postmas...@mail.dyne.org; dkim=hardfail (body hash did not verify [final]) header.i=@meeble.net Cheers, Ludovic On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: Hi Sterfan, Spoke too soon. I'm getting it on my reply too: Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=meeble.net header.i=@meeble.net header.b="K9Pp04F0"; dkim-atps=neutral Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too strict. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hi Sterfan, On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 10:12 +0100, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > Hi Stefan, > > On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 09:35 +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote: > > Good Day everybody, > > > > I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since > > 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea > > why. > > > > My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in > > Berlin, > > Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server > > either. > > > > Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? > > > Looking at the headers on recent posts (not just those from you) from > the DNG list I'm now seeing the following: > > Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature > verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com > header.i=@gmail.com header.b="dZ8HIihF"; dkim-atps=neutral > > Different servers and their spam filters have different policies as > to what is acceptable and outright rejection is always possible: as > these are silent then you'll never know how many spam or legitimate > emails are getting rejected as the emails never get to your spam > folder - on my server a majority of obvious spam never gets to my > spam folder as it is clearly malformed (no valid reverse DNS, for > example). > > I have my own postfix server with rspamd and it's not rejecting DNG > due to the DKIM authentication but it's possible yours may do. And > asi t's my own server I also do get to see summary information > about all rejections. > > This is a recent change on the DNG list server so it probably needs > fixing. > > Interestingly I'm not seeing it in Marc reply, so maybe it /has/ been > fixed! Spoke too soon. I'm getting it on my reply too: Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=meeble.net header.i=@meeble.net header.b="K9Pp04F0"; dkim-atps=neutral > > Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too > strict. > -- Marjorie ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hi Stefan, On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 09:35 +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote: > Good Day everybody, > > I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since > 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea > why. > > My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, > Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server > either. > > Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? > Looking at the headers on recent posts (not just those from you) from the DNG list I'm now seeing the following: Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="dZ8HIihF"; dkim-atps=neutral Different servers and their spam filters have different policies as to what is acceptable and outright rejection is always possible: as these are silent then you'll never know how many spam or legitimate emails are getting rejected as the emails never get to your spam folder - on my server a majority of obvious spam never gets to my spam folder as it is clearly malformed (no valid reverse DNS, for example). I have my own postfix server with rspamd and it's not rejecting DNG due to the DKIM authentication but it's possible yours may do. And as it's my own server I also do get to see summary information about all rejections. This is a recent change on the DNG list server so it probably needs fixing. Interestingly I'm not seeing it in Marc reply, so maybe it /has/ been fixed! Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too strict. -- Marjorie On 28 July 2022 08:35:40 BST, Stefan Krusche wrote: Good Day everybody, I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server either. Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? Thanks, Stefan Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
> Good Day everybody, Hello > I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 > 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. So I count about 33 mails since the 18th, with the following 8 threads: Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1 Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera Firefox unwilling to install extensions OpenVPN 2.5.1-3+devuan1 packaging vs best APT configuration directives info UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption Question re: screen blanking and shutoff no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT] It is worth noting that mail from the devuan list currently seems to arrive via mail.dyne.org aka ns3218761.ip-162-19-139.eu [162.19.139.95] While technically not essential, it might be good to make sure there is a proper/matching reverse entry for 162.19.139.95, as a number of heuristics block or graylist senders who don't have that. I haven't checked if the archive at mailinglists.dyne.org is accessible, but it is up one can check there too to see if a list has been active. Actually: my rather ranty post on firefox extensions also didn't get any responses - I had concluded that nobody cares, but perhaps it got dropped/marked as spam by quite a number of MTAs. regards marc ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hello Stefan, DNG is definitively sending emails, however some host will silently filter out emails without telling you why. I'd suggest either contacting your host, or changing for a service that is more respectful of your freedoms. Cheers, Ludovic On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Stefan Krusche wrote: Good Day everybody, I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server either. Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? Thanks, Stefan signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Good Day everybody, I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server either. Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? Thanks, Stefan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
