Re: [Dng] The value of good docs: was pre-alpha-valentine on qemu
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:48:02 + KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36:38AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] Then KatolaZ exactly documented the four steps to installation, and I said I can do that in my sleep, while doing other work! So I did it, and it worked (although slowly because -enable-kvm wasn't in the commands). KatolaZ' four step document. Sorry guys for forgetting the -enable-kvm switch, but as I said I was practically asleep when I wrote the nano-howto. Fortunately this was spotted quite soon :) Hope this has not had a bad impact on potential DVNRs (to be read Devuaners :P) ... HND KatolaZ KatolaZ, Quite the opposite. I congratulate you on your great four step document. That doc singlehandedly got me to try pre-alpha Valentine. The fact that you left out one thing is trivial because it brought us very close to the exact four instructions. I think too many people decide not to write such docs in order not to risk leaving something out, but my belief is the perfect is the enemy of the good, and besides that, if you write good docs, somebody is bound to find and point out any deficiencies, along with suggested corrections. The only bad effect it had on me was the happiness I got getting it to work. My doctor told me every happy person eventually dies. :-) I'm copying the dng list because, for whatever reason, your post didn't make it to the DNG list, even though your post was addressed to the DNG list. Thanks again for the great instructions. Keep up the good work. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] The value of good docs: was pre-alpha-valentine on qemu
hey thanks everyone I actually didnt know the --enable-kvm Switch was such an improvement :-) this will make the development process snappier feedback on how the pre alpha feels is welcome, we shall work on making a few things better, looking fwd to dimkr input if we can already get around logind in such an early stage that would be awesome (but not strictly necessary IMO) ciao On February 17, 2015 11:53:01 PM GMT+01:00, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:48:02 + KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36:38AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] Then KatolaZ exactly documented the four steps to installation, and I said I can do that in my sleep, while doing other work! So I did it, and it worked (although slowly because -enable-kvm wasn't in the commands). KatolaZ' four step document. Sorry guys for forgetting the -enable-kvm switch, but as I said I was practically asleep when I wrote the nano-howto. Fortunately this was spotted quite soon :) Hope this has not had a bad impact on potential DVNRs (to be read Devuaners :P) ... HND KatolaZ KatolaZ, Quite the opposite. I congratulate you on your great four step document. That doc singlehandedly got me to try pre-alpha Valentine. The fact that you left out one thing is trivial because it brought us very close to the exact four instructions. I think too many people decide not to write such docs in order not to risk leaving something out, but my belief is the perfect is the enemy of the good, and besides that, if you write good docs, somebody is bound to find and point out any deficiencies, along with suggested corrections. The only bad effect it had on me was the happiness I got getting it to work. My doctor told me every happy person eventually dies. :-) I'm copying the dng list because, for whatever reason, your post didn't make it to the DNG list, even though your post was addressed to the DNG list. Thanks again for the great instructions. Keep up the good work. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] The value of good docs: was pre-alpha-valentine on qemu
A document that makes installation and use trivial, and makes it simple, is worth its weight in gold. the instructions dont actually weigh anything so saying it's worth it's weight in gold is saying they aren't worth anything. ;) --Gravis On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 02:52:12 + KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org wrote: Hi guys, a few simple steps to have Devuan-pre-alpha-valentine installed and running on qemu: 0)# wget http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso 1)$ apt-get install qemu-kvm 2)$ qemu-img create devuan_disk 5G (creates a 5G qemu disk image for devuan) 3)$ qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso -hda devuan_disk -boot d -net nic -net user -m 256 -localtime (installs Devuan on the qemu disk image) 4)$ qemu-system-x86_64 -hda devuan_disk -boot c -net nic -net user -m 256 -localtime (boots the system) Just two words: IT WORKS :) No way did I have time to install the pre-alpha Valentine, and that fact distressed me because I was one of those asking for a quick release as a confidence builder. But I just didn't have the time. Then KatolaZ exactly documented the four steps to installation, and I said I can do that in my sleep, while doing other work! So I did it, and it worked (although slowly because -enable-kvm wasn't in the commands). KatolaZ' four step document. A document that makes installation and use trivial, and makes it simple, is worth its weight in gold. Thanks KatolaZ. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] The value of good docs: was pre-alpha-valentine on qemu
Was probably based on deprecated printed-doc time philosophy ;-) Didier Le 17/02/2015 17:57, Gravis a écrit : A document that makes installation and use trivial, and makes it simple, is worth its weight in gold. the instructions dont actually weigh anything so saying it's worth it's weight in gold is saying they aren't worth anything. ;) --Gravis On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 02:52:12 + KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org wrote: Hi guys, a few simple steps to have Devuan-pre-alpha-valentine installed and running on qemu: 0)# wget "http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso" 1)$ apt-get install qemu-kvm 2)$ qemu-img create devuan_disk 5G (creates a 5G qemu disk image for devuan) 3)$ qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso -hda devuan_disk -boot d -net nic -net user -m 256 -localtime (installs Devuan on the qemu disk image) 4)$ qemu-system-x86_64 -hda devuan_disk -boot c -net nic -net user -m 256 -localtime (boots the system) Just two words: IT WORKS :) No way did I have time to install the pre-alpha Valentine, and that fact distressed me because I was one of those asking for a quick release as a confidence builder. But I just didn't have the time. Then KatolaZ exactly documented the four steps to installation, and I said "I can do that in my sleep, while doing other work!" So I did it, and it worked (although slowly because -enable-kvm wasn't in the commands). KatolaZ' four step document. A document that makes installation and use trivial, and makes it simple, is worth its weight in gold. Thanks KatolaZ. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] The value of good docs: was pre-alpha-valentine on qemu
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36:38AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] Then KatolaZ exactly documented the four steps to installation, and I said I can do that in my sleep, while doing other work! So I did it, and it worked (although slowly because -enable-kvm wasn't in the commands). KatolaZ' four step document. Sorry guys for forgetting the -enable-kvm switch, but as I said I was practically asleep when I wrote the nano-howto. Fortunately this was spotted quite soon :) Hope this has not had a bad impact on potential DVNRs (to be read Devuaners :P) ... HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
