Re: [DNG] Fwd: [kbd] [ANNOUNCE] kbd-2.3.0
il devuanizzato terryc il 12-07-20 05:59:45 ha scritto:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:14:44 +0200
viverna wrote:
Swapping the order of your comments.
Only I think pure console in Linux should be better treated (for
example 16M colors (if framebuffer is enabled it is possible),
support for very large font, better support for SGR parameters in
ANSI escape code, maybe Sixel.
Err, AFAIK, the console is just a minimmal text based output to provide
information in the event of error in the intial boot up and yes, ever
since 1920x1024(?) capable screen became common place, you might have
to quIck with a magnifying glass if you need to see those initial few
lines.
For me console is more than a minimal text based output to provide
information in the event of error until X11 login manager ask you
password. Console and text based shell is the core of the system.
My workflow is the following:
- start pc
- grub (heavly configurated) launch 3 different configuration of
framebuffer (KMS,uvesafb,none) (maybe in the future with different
init system).
- init system do the job
- no X at startup
- getty manage CLI login
- using pure console for:
* internet (read email, browsing simple site, instant messaging,
* and so on...)
* programming
* read most document (maybe with framebuffer)
* watch photo and simple video (with framebuffer)
* almost everything else
- launch X with WM/DE that I want at that moment with "ax" and exit
- halt the system
I'm not young man and my preferred Human-computer interaction is TUI.
Various interfaces in the DOS era and modern software TUI for Linux are
the best. WIMP it's not for me.
Technically speaking:
- 16M colors (if framebuffer is enabled it is possible, without is not
possible because of hardware limitations of VGA consoles, 2 byte for
character and color).
I read commit in linux:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/cec5b2a97a11ade56a701e83044d0a2a984c67b4
"Because of hardware limitations of VGA consoles, colours are downgraded
to 16 foregrounds and 8 backgrounds. On fbdev consoles it would be
possible to support them without quality loss, but adding that would
require quite a large amount of code."
I wonder how large code could be.
- support for very large font
"Due to kernel limitations, this is suitable only for 16x16 or smaller
fonts."
Where are in the kernel these limitations?
Swapping from the default of 640x460 to 1024x768 enabled me to clearly
read the boot up text on the console after the initial few lines.
Lowering the resolution enlarge me the font. But I don't know how change
resolution in console with KMS framebuffer (fbset don't work). With
uvesafb fbset work well.
The the solution of course has always been to have a simpler monitor
to pug in to sort out the initial book problems.
Should I buy a new large monitor with lower resolution (for "lower"
intend Full HD not likely "lower")?
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Re: [DNG] Fwd: [kbd] [ANNOUNCE] kbd-2.3.0
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:14:44 +0200 viverna wrote: Swapping the order of your comments. > Only I think pure console in Linux should be better treated (for > example 16M colors (if framebuffer is enabled it is possible), > support for very large font, better support for SGR parameters in > ANSI escape code, maybe Sixel. Err, AFAIK, the console is just a minimmal text based output to provide information in the event of error in the intial boot up and yes, ever since 1920x1024(?) capable screen became common place, you might have to quIck with a magnifying glass if you need to see those initial few lines. However, there are options in grub.cfg(?) to improve stuff where you can set certain parameters to improve how messages are displayed. Being no expert on this and just crawling through my current grub.cfb which is the result of hacking to fix similar problems in the past, there are settings to do with font and gfxmode, then you can invoke gfxterm and switch the display to that. ...extract ... if loadfont $font ; then set gfxmode=1024x768 load_video insmod gfxterm set locale_dir=$prefix/locale set lang=en_AU insmod gettext fi terminal_output gfxterm end of extract.. Swapping from the default of 640x460 to 1024x768 enabled me to clearly read the boot up text on the console after the initial few lines. In another section, it has the option of loading a video driver or two(mods in i386 section), which might help. The the solution of course has always been to have a simpler monitor to pug in to sort out the initial book problems. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fwd: [kbd] [ANNOUNCE] kbd-2.3.0
il devuanizzato Clarke Sideroad via Dng il 11-07-20
05:52:30 ha scritto:
I thought this might be of interest to some.
Clarke
Forwarded Message
Subject:[kbd] [ANNOUNCE] kbd-2.3.0
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 20:18:30 +0200
From: Alexey Gladkov
Reply-To: Linux console tools development discussion
To: Linux console tools development discussion
kbd 2.3.0 Release Notes
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Changes
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+ Added option -d to double size of font (setfont).
Wonderful! I don't buy until now 4K monitor because fonts in console are
too small!
https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/setfont.8.html
"Doubles the size of the font, by replicating all of its pixels
vertically and horizontally. This is suitable for high pixel
density (e.g. "4k") displays on which the standard fonts are
too small to be easily legible."
But:
"Due to kernel limitations, this is suitable only for 16x16 or smaller
fonts."
But if I want a very large console fonts 64x64 or 128x128 and so on I
obtain an error: "incorrect height" if I manually enlarge character.
It is possibile to have a very VERY large console fonts in pure linux
console (with fbterm is very simple)?
Where are in the kernel these limitations?
Only I think pure console in Linux should be better treated (for example
16M colors (if framebuffer is enabled it is possible), support for very
large font, better support for SGR parameters in ANSI escape code,
maybe Sixel.
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