Re: [DNG] devuan installer main menu access

[Rainer Weikusat]

Boruch Baum  writes:

[...]

> 4] The third set of downloads, for the additional system components,
> should have been the easy lift. What I did was deselect the options for
> a desktop and for a print server, expecting the system to want to
> download ~273 files, as it did on prior tests. At that point, I tried
> doing what I had no problem doing for the prior two stages - return to
> the main install menu, and open up a shell. I tabbed to 'go back',
> pressed 'enter', but the installer began downloading packages instead of
> presenting the main menu, and indicated that it would download 1173
> packages instead of 273.

It's been a long time since I used that but you should have a shell
available on the 2nd VT.
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Re: [DNG] devuan installer main menu access

[Boruch Baum]

On 03/29/2016 12:33 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 06:30:42PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
>> 4.1] Was it a case of 'fat-fingerng'? I don't think so, but it's
>> asking a lot to attempt to re-create this because with slow
>> bandwidth, each install attempt takes a long time to get to this
>> stage. Today's connection was especially slow. This has been the
>> only time and point in the install process that I've had a problem
>> returning to the main menu, so it might have been an errant
>> keystroke, but I think I was being careful.
> 
> You had previously indicated you have other debian/devuan boxes on
> your network.
Did not. Don't.

> Is there any reason why you can't install apt-cacher-ng on one of
> them?
See above.

> You could then experiment with as many install attempts as you
> want without having to download the same packages all over again.
What I did write in the past, in response to Adam Borowski's identical
suggestion, was that its asking a lot of a potential contributor to
require multiple machines, a network, and the additional software, for
something that could easily have been solved by either: 1] not being
stingy on the initial download, ie. offering a full iso instead of a
netboot, or 2] having the netboot installer also refer to a local cache.
Also, how many other linux distributions make that kind of request?

I'll mention one solution I didn't offer before because its performance
might not be as fast - use the extra space on the install medium. -IF-
the install medium is a new-ish USB stick, then it likely has a capacity
of 8/16/32 GB, and if the target is USB3-equipped, then the transfer
speeds should be good. The installer already sets up a small writable
FIRMWARE partition on the install media, so this additional suggestion
would be to not let the rest of the install media go to waste - use it
as a local cache.

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Re: [DNG] devuan installer main menu access

[Gregory Nowak]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 06:30:42PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
> 4.1] Was it a case of 'fat-fingerng'? I don't think so, but it's asking
> a lot to attempt to re-create this because with slow bandwidth, each
> install attempt takes a long time to get to this stage. Today's
> connection was especially slow. This has been the only time and point in
> the install process that I've had a problem returning to the main menu,
> so it might have been an errant keystroke, but I think I was being careful.

You had previously indicated you have other debian/devuan boxes on your
network. Is there any reason why you can't install apt-cacher-ng on
one of them? You could then experiment with as many install attempts as you
want without having to download the same packages all over again.

Greg


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